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echo: crossfire
to: Ed Hulett
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2008-11-15 13:44:00
subject: Debates

EH> Bob Klahn -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 EH>>>>>>>>>>> We'll have to see how he
handles Russia's aggressive action
 EH>>>>>>>>>>> WRT our missile sites in Poland.

 BK>>>>  If he's smart he will shut them down. They would do no good at
 BK>>>>  all against the Russians, and no one else is any threat. Those
 BK>>>>  missile sites are nothing but pork for Bush's defense contractor
 BK>>>>  supporters.

 EH>>> Just like a good little union thug you parrot the current
 EH>>> Dem script.

 BK>>  If you had anything to say you would have said it.

 EH> I'm waiting for you to say something intelligent.

 If you had anything to say you would have said it.

 TW>>>>>>>>>> He is going to Fold like an
Accordian Curtian!!

 EH>>>>>>>>> His pick of Rohm Emanuel has the
middle east on edge as well.

 BK>>>>  Is that a bad thing? It's more a matter of who in the Middle
 BK>>>>  East is on edge.

 EH>>> Those countries where we are currently not in.

 BK>>  Since the real enemy is Saudi Arabia, they should feel a bit of
 BK>>  unease.

 EH> They aren't exactly the best allie we have, but they
 EH> definitely aren't the enemy.

 Saudi Arabia is the home of the Wahabi Islamic movement,
 supported by the government.

 Almost every terrorist act blamed on Muslims in Europe are from
 those attending Wahabi Mosques. Look at all the mosques in the
 West, supported by foreign governments. In most cases they are
 supported by Saudi Arabia, and they are Wahabi. That also goes
 for places like Afghanistan.

 Saudi Arabia did not actively co-operate with the US against
 Bin Laden before Al Qaeda started attacking on Saudi territory.

 Saudi refused to allow US officials permission to interrogate
 the Khobar Towers terrorists. Or, the people the Saudi's
 arrested and executed.

 Wahabi Islam is about the most extreme version of fundamentalist
 Islam, and that is the Islam supported, and exported, by the
 Saudi regime.

 MG>>>>>>>> One wonders if Barry will get the 8
months that GW got before the
 MG>>>>>>>> terrorists come at us again?

 EH>>>>>>> One wonders what he would do about it.

 BK>>>>  Well, he will probably first curse Bush for not doing the job in
 BK>>>>  the first place, then pull US troops out of Iraq where they
 BK>>>>  don't belong, and redeploy them to Afghanistan where they do
 BK>>>>  belong, and settle that hash once and for all.

 EH>>> Oh yeah, that would be a real good move. And how exactly
 EH>>> will that change anything in Afghanistan?

 BK>>  You would only ask that if you believed a surge doesn't work.

 EH> There is a difference between fighting in Iraq and fighting
 EH> in Afghanistan. A big difference.

 Yeah, in Iraq we are fighing for oil. In Afgnanistan we are
 fighting the people who actually attacked us.

 EH>>> BTW, don't expect him to follow your stupid advice.

 BK>>  Unfortunately he won't get my brilliant advice.

 EH> At least you impress yourself.

 You sure do not impress anyone other than your ass kissing
 buddies.

 MG>>>>>> Good question now that we'll have a coward, er,
peacenik in the
 BK>> White House. He may take the French way.

 EH>>>>> I'm more concerned what he would do WRT individual freedoms
 EH>>>>> here in the US.

 BK>>>>  Probably re-establish them after Bush abolished so many.

 EH>>> What individual freedoms did Bush abolish?

 BK>>  When they ship you off to Gitmo, from evidence gathered from a
 BK>>  wiretap placed without a warrant, and misunderstood by an
 BK>>  overworked interpreter, you can ask that question again.

 EH> First of all, they don't have any reason to wiretap my
 EH> communications.

 They decide that, you don't.

 EH> Second, I wouldn't be shipped off to Gitmo
 EH> since I'm a US citizen,

 That is no guarantee. If they can hold citizens of allied
 nations at Gitmo, and hold a US citizen in a Navy Brig, they can
 do what they want with you.

 EH> Third, why would they need an
 EH> interpreter to listen to my conversations?

 Someone to translate from Gibberish to English

 EH> You have failed to show where anyone's individual freedoms
 EH> have been abolished. All you've shown is that you will
 EH> believe anything you read in one of your favorite loopy
 EH> left blogs.

 If you have not been following the news, then you will not know.

 Remember, soon it will be Obama deciding if you are a terrorist.



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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