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to: RON TAYLOR
from: IVY IVERSON
date: 1997-12-21 07:00:00
subject: [3/3] Evidence?

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 RT> President Kennedy was shot and killed.  I believe that Jimmy Hoffa is
 RT> missing. I believe that Elvis Presley is dead.  I believe that flight
 RT> 800 crashed. 
 
So with all the "O-FISHY" stories about Roswell, which were released by
Uncle Sam's rumor mill and reported in the press, which one do _YOU_
believe?  Personally I believe NONE of them!  Just the fact that they
have released so many stories has totally destroyed the last grain of
credibility they might have had on the subject!
 
 RT> Most or all of the above have left questions unanswered in the minds
 RT> of many people, but they believe they happened. Most people believe
 RT> that there are circumstances surrounding some of these events that have
 RT> been kept secret from the public.  But, most people believe the basic
 RT> truths of these events as reported by the mass media.
 
Yep, just as the Judas goat leads the sheep to the slaughter, the
unthinking public believes whatever pablum they are fed by the media.
But there are some, myself included, that use the brain that God gave
them, and do NOT automatically believe whatever Uncle Sam and the media
spew out.
 
 RT> The one phenomena that stands out as unique is UFOlogy and the ET
 RT> hypothesis. No announcement has been made.  No official body has ever
 RT> recognized it publicly.  No creditable panel has ever endorsed it as
 RT> the truth.  I believe that if it were the truth, as astounding as it
 RT> is, and if our governments, scientists, and universities knew it, there
 RT> would be no power great enough to withhold it from us.  I cannot
 RT> personally imagine why they would want to.
 
Sorry, IMO you're out in left field on this one.  It IS possible for the
military establishment to keep a secret, and if some renigade decides to
spill the beans, the trenchcoat society is perfectly capable of totally
discrediting the person, and I believe this has been done.  Then there's
the well-proven disinformation/misinformation machine, which plants rumors
with just a grain of truth and a pound of manure, calculated to throw
anyone looking for information into the wrong places to look.  This has
been proven to happen as well, in such reputable investigative groups as
MUFON and APRO!
 
 RT> Until such an announcement is made, I'll still doubt, but I'll still
 RT> look up... And, if you can't tell me WHY you believe in WHAT you
 RT> believe beyond you own emotions,  I'll remain skeptical. If your only
 RT> logic is a conclusion by default, I'll consider your opinion
 RT> untrustworthy to form my conclusion.
 
Don't hold your breath, because any REAL official announcement that ET's
and alien craft are real won't come about unless and until a UFO lands or
crashes in some VERY public place, witnessed by hundreds of people and
recorded by news media.  If that ever happens, the Govt. will be FORCED
to admit that they exist, but not until.  And even then they won't tell
ALL they know!
 
 RT> I wouldn't deprive you of your right to an opinion, even if I consider
 RT> it a false belief.  I will however, continue to ask you why you
 RT> believe it because I want to know also.
 
I believe as stated previously, for reasons previously stated.
 
 RT> I don't intend to insult you
 RT> or to try and make you believe that I'm "one up" on you.
 
Thank you.  And I will show you the same courtesy.
 
 RT> I want to
 RT> know what you've got and if you can't provide substantiation, I can
 RT> only conclude that you are misguided and that neither of us yet knows
 RT> the truth.
 
True!  One of us, (I believe it is myself, you believe it's yourself),
MAY know the truth, but neither of us could convince a jury at this time.
And even then, juries can be - and sometimes are - wrong.  But the public
jury is still out on the matter of UFO's and ET's, and I dount that a
final and accurate verdict will come in any time soon.
 
One final comment:
 
Q: WHY doesn't the Govt. admit their knowledge of UFO's?
 
A: FEAR!  They are scared to death that if word got out that ET's were
visiting us, there would be mass panic!  And yes, there would be some
people who could not handle the information that there are "others,"
especially since the "others" are more technically advanced than we are,
since they have found us and have come "knocking on our door," while we
are still trying to make our first contact by the "simple" experiment of
listening for extraterrestial radio signals.  Who is to say that "they"
use electromagnetic communication?  For all we know, they could use
telepathy or some other form of communication which our science is not yet
aware of.
 
So what say you to my lengthy reply?
 
Crime Bytes 2 - Underwood, Iowa (712)566-2872 (1:285/12)
 
Underwood, IA?  Where the heck is that?  I came here from Waterloo about
a dozen years ago.
 
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year... Keep l00king up!
   Ivy
 
 
 
... "UFO's are real: The Air Force doesn't exist!" (Real USAF saying!)
 
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