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echo: bluewave
to: Nancy Backus
from: mark lewis
date: 2004-04-07 21:07:26
subject: bbs was Re: Addy.

NB> IIRC, the Bluewave door was* based on the areaname.  I know
 NB> there were some BW-compatible doors (not the original GH
 NB> ones) that were still working after the Y2K fixes..

maybe on the areaname assigned by the sysop but not the fidonet echotag
(again, unless assigned by the sysop)... the problem with some software is
that it uses areas based on number... the hudson message base format is
like this... it has areas from 1 to 200 (by the spec)... trying to tie
those areanumbers to the area name is the problem... and then you have
those systems that give the area an "english spoken area name"
instead of the areatag so that their users will know what the area is
about... so that leaves us with something like this...

area# 42 == BLUEWAVE == Bluewave Offline Mail Reader Discussions

or some such... the problem is tieing all those together to mean the same
thing... RemoteAccess is one of those bbs packages that don't offer an
additional field in the message base configs that can be used as the
bluewave (or rather offline mail) are name and one can't rely on the
descriptive area name for the link... in the case of RemoteAccess (and many
other software packages), we need an additional field that can contain, for
instance, the echotag or the area... then, the offline mail door needs to
coordinate between the areaname and the stored area number for the
placement of the messages...

 NB> EleBBS
 NB> had one built in that handled BW packets natively, not as QWK
 NB> packets.  (That's what my last local homebase bbs was using
 NB> before he closed down...)

elebbs is supposedly a dropin replacement for RA... however, its not up to
the latest RA beta's specs in this regard... at least not to my
knowledge...

 ML>> there was a point package designed for this way back but i
 ML>> cannot remember what it was called... it was a competitor
 ML>> with BW, QWK, OPX and SOUP... heck, it might have been OPX
 ML>> but i doubt it... in any case, it had a mailer function that
 ML>> tapped the boss node's mailer and pulled the mail bundles
 ML>> just like another node would do... then it unarchived the
 ML>> messages and you read and replied to them... when done, it
 ML>> would create a bundle of replies to upload back to the boss
 ML>> node's mailer... it didn't matter if the message areas
 ML>> changed or not because it all operated outside the bbs...
 ML>> the mail was tossed and scanned just like any other fido
 ML>> node's... it just makes sense OB-)

 NB> That wasn't Martin Pollard's OMX was it?  Dan Ceppa's still
 NB> using that to do his BW packets... :)

i don't recall, actually... i seem to recall that it was out before QWK
really got a foothold in fidonet... the biggest problem facing it was that
it was incompatible with the QWK readers that many folk were using from the
RIME/PCRelay network connected boards and those that just offered offline
mail that had compatible doors and software... i'll have to dig into my old
5.25 1.2meg floppies and see if i can locate it... it should still work
just fine with today's software barring any y2k and fast processor problems
;)  even the, i'm sure that there is existing stuff that can handle that to
make it work... if i can locate it, i'll see what i may be able to do to
test it out... its definitely not "fancy" like BW
>

)\/(ark

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