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echo: r_catholic
to: Syd
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-27 16:05:22
subject: Re: God is everything.

From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 26, 4:20 pm, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 25, 6:00 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2:21 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:07:55 -0400, stumper
 in
>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> God does not have to have any
physical characteristics.
>>>>>>>>>> That's probably what it means when
they say "God is a spirit."
>>>>>>>>> I am always entertained when people
make assertions about the nature
>>>>>>>>> of a supposedly infinite being that
they've never seen.
>>>>>>>> God is everything there ever was, is, and will be.
>>>>>>> Prove any god is anything.
>>>>>>> Or even exists.
>>>>>>>> Does such God exist?
>>>>>>>> Is it even meaningful to ask
>>>>>>>> whether such God exists or not?
>>>>>>> It is always meaningful to ask if anything exists.
>>>>>> God exists by definition
>>>>>> just like the universe.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>> No.
>>>>> PDW
>>>> You exist by definition.
>>>> How about me?
>>>> --
>>>> ~Stumper
>>> What about you?
>>> PDW
>> You need to do a paradigm shift first to understand.
>>
> I other words, I need to believe to believe..
> No thank you.
>
>> God is better handled by social science
>> than by natural science.
>>
>> My working hypothesis for this week is this:
>> God is a world government in exile.
>>
> My working hypothesis for this week is:
> Your a nut case.
>
> PDW
>


Good for you.

Let's make the paradigm shift a little easier. If you think God does not exist
and there are many people who insist that God exists, you might not be
talking about the same thing.

So you just say God as understood by you does not exist. But you cannot say
that God as understood by them does not exist.

To do that, you need to agree with them. Got it?
You need to agree with Christians about what God is.

Sure, they say God is this, God is that, and even insist that they mean it
literally. But they clearly are not talking about God as understood by you,
do they?

So we need to talk about what God is before we argue about whether God exists or not.

What is God?

--
~Stumper

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