NB> Hello Mike,

 NB> On Sat Dec 02 2017 00:52:26, Mike Miller wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 MM>>  I'm running into one of those stupid emerge issues right now on my
 MM>> devbox. too many things unmasked and it doesn't want to update
 MM>> properly.  Meanwhile I can just "yum -y update" on my BBS machine
 MM>> without worrying that it's going to break.

 NB> Yeah, those were a pain tracking down the problem too! I honestly
 NB> can't say that I miss it one bit, really. While the idea is nice, I'd
 NB> now rather wait for the time to try an LFS build if I'm going to go
 NB> back to compiling everything.

 MM>>  "You built a new computer, throw Gentoo on the old one" I said. "It's
 MM>> got a fast CPU, Gentoo will work great!" I insisted. "You'll keep it
 MM>> up to date, just emerge once every few days or so!" I thought.

 MM>> Yeah...

 NB> HAHA. But sometimes that "once every few days" overlap each other
 NB> when you have to compile for 8 hours (so you walk away), come back 12
 NB> hours later and the compile broke somewhere, so you have to track it
 NB> down and recompile everything that didn't compile all over again.
 NB> Yikes, as I said I don't miss it. lol

 NB>>> Now I run the BBS on Arch and update whenever I feel like it.
 NB>>> Takes no time at all and everything has been surprisingly stable
 NB>>> for a few years now.

 MM>> I tried to toss Arch on my laptop at one point, and I just couldn't
 MM>> get it to run right. It booted, but X wouldn't come up, and I didn't
 MM>> want to do Gentoo-levels of tinkering with it to make it work, so I
 MM>> gave up.  I think I'm too old to learn a new distro...

 NB> So you tried installing X after you rebooted into it the first time?
 NB> Arch doesn't come with X preinstalled. The best instructions are on
 NB> the wiki. I think it's as simple as:

 NB> pacman -S xorg 

 NB> Then if you want to use 'startx' you'd have to install xorg-xinit as
 NB> it doesn't come with the base xorg packages. Same goes for something
 NB> like xdg, gdm, kdm, etc if you want a graphical login.

 NB> That aside, if you're looking for an Arch-based distro that comes
 NB> with all the extras, you could try Manjaro or Antergos. I gave
 NB> Manjaro a looksee in a VM and it was great. Definitely a nice usable
 NB> desktop OS. I just have no need for X so I stick with Arch itself
 NB> these days. My main desktop is Windows 10, mainly because of gaming.
 NB> I just use Putty or VMWare's detachable console program to access my
 NB> Linux servers.

Or you just install Fedora or Ubuntu and shit just works. :D


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