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to: NICHOLAS BOEL
from: MIKE MILLER
date: 2017-12-02 00:58:00
subject: helllooo?

   Hello Nicholas!

01 Dec 17 10:40, you wrote to me:

 NB> Hello Mike,

 NB> On Thu Nov 30 2017 12:07:18, Mike Miller wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NB>>> Oh no, definitely not. I'd probably go the CentOS route as well
 NB>>> if I were managing that much. However, for a few machines at
 NB>>> home..  ;)

 MM>>  I run Gentoo on my "dev box", which I use for all my devops-y
 MM>> work. It also runs SEXPOTS to forward landline callers to the
 MM>> BBS. (Although one of these days I'm going to switch it over to
 MM>> mgetty and ifcico, I just don't have a good way to test it, since
 MM>> I can't call myself)

 MM>> My BBS runs on CentOS 7 mainly because I wanted it on something
 MM>> stable, and I I can manage the OS in my sleep (and after long
 MM>> days at work, I often do!). Years back I ran Synchronet on
 MM>> Gentoo, and that was ... well, less fun that I wanted it to be.

 NB> I ran Gentoo for upwards of 10 years or so. And I agree. While
 NB> Synchronet on Gentoo works great, it was usually Gentoo you had to
 NB> worry about. Especially trying to run the ~ unstable architecture.
 NB> That was a dumb idea that I fought for years. Once I went with the
 NB> stable arch it was actually quite a bit better, although I'm one to
 NB> constantly upgrade - and that is always a pain in the ass with Gentoo
 NB> (ie: it's dependency situation is still something I cringe at to this
 NB> day - try to upgrade one thing and it wants to pull in 40 dependencies
 NB> and take 2 hours to compile). After taking a look at LFS and realizing
 NB> that things like gcc only requires glibc, when Gentoo would want to
 NB> update your entire system (obviously to re-compile with the latest
 NB> gcc, but who needs to do that for every package?).. I tired of it and
 NB> went another route until I get the time (and patience) to do an LFS
 NB> install. I probably wouldn't use it as my server OS, but there's never
 NB> a time to stop learning. ;)

 I'm running into one of those stupid emerge issues right now on my devbox. too
many things unmasked and it doesn't want to update properly.  Meanwhile I can
just "yum -y update" on my BBS machine without worrying that it's going to
break.

 "You built a new computer, throw Gentoo on the old one" I said. "It's got a
fast CPU, Gentoo will work great!" I insisted. "You'll keep it up to date, just
emerge once every few days or so!" I thought.

Yeah...



 NB> Now I run the BBS on Arch and update whenever I feel like it. Takes no
 NB> time at all and everything has been surprisingly stable for a few
 NB> years now.

 I tried to toss Arch on my laptop at one point, and I just couldn't get it to
run right. It booted, but X wouldn't come up, and I didn't want to do
Gentoo-levels of tinkering with it to make it work, so I gave up.  I think I'm
too old to learn a new distro...


Mike


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