NB>>> Yes, there's some other* kludge for sending Internet email
 NB>>> through the netmail, but that involved having Fido gates
 NB>>> into the Internet, which I don't think* is the case any
 NB>>> more, now

 ML>> yes it is... my system is one such gate... your address thru
 ML>> my gateway is nancy.backus{at}323-120.wpusa.dynip.com IIRC ;)

 NB> A new sort of gate, then.  :)

nope, exactly the same sort of gate that they all have been... the only
difference is that my system doesn't qualify for the GUUCP flag and thus no
listing in the fidonet.org domain... this means that i can run those i
allow to gate thru my system as part of my own domain... the really funny
thing is that i can harbour the entire network of fidonet under my
domain... even funnier is that i have been for many years ;) once the
addressing is learned and understood, its actually quite easy to use...

 NB>>> that many bbs's have their own way onto the Inet.  There's
 NB>>> also a kludge for when the email addy is too long to put in
 NB>>> the To: line in the regular header,

 ML>> yes, the "old" To: UUCP kludge... its still needed in the
 ML>> cases of the destination address being too long to fit in
 ML>> the FTN netmail To: field...

 NB> Which using your gate looks like it might do.

yup...

 NB> IIRC, one puts UUCP as the To: and then puts the actual addy
 NB> on the first line.  Was/is there any special punctuation before
 NB> or around the addy?

nope... just a leading TO: and a blank line after the addresses... one TO:
name{at}address per line...

 NB>> but I haven't used that
 NB>> in years either, since I have email through the same ISP
 NB>> that gives me access to the Inet for telnetting.

 ML>> well, guess what, you have more email addresses than you
 ML>> know about ;) my gateway being one of them... and if you go
 ML>> to another system, only the numbers in the above will
 ML>> change... and if you set up an account /on/ my system,
 ML>> that's another simular address... albiet one without the
 ML>> numbers >

 NB> Oh, I realized that I have email addresses from just about
 NB> every bbs I telnet to, as they have their own access to the
 NB> internet.  I haven't used those, though, as just getting to
 NB> them means that I have access to my main email addy from my
 NB> ISP, through which I telnet... :)

true... however, there are very low cost ISPs that don't provide anything
other than the connection... you have to provide your own everything
else...

 NB> Now, using your gateway, does that work then with ANY zone 1
 NB> Fidonet address?  I still have one local BBS that I can
 NB> access either by dial-up or by telnet, that has netmail, but
 NB> as far as I know doesn't offer email (could be wrong on the
 NB> latter, as I just haven't tried BBS email for
 NB> while now...)

using my gateway works with /any/ fidonet system that's operational and has
a valid routing path to it...

 NB> Of course the other problem with that* BBS is that he
 NB> doesn't have any offline mail door so anything HAS to be done
 NB> online there... :(

i know that feeling... i had to remove the offline mail doors on my system
because they were (and still are) incompatible with the version of the BBS
software that i'm running...

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