Hi!
-------Original Message-------
From: Cinnabari 
Sent: 06/13/03 02:14 PM
To: bardroom2{at}tantech.com
Subject: Re: [BR-2] Bilbo

> 
> 
> 
> Heh.  One wonders why the dwarves chose a hobbit to be their thief, no?  
A
> middle-class, well-to-do hobbit, a bunch of poor-but-noble-descended
> dwarves
> (at least Thorin was, but I thought the rest might have been, too)...
hmm. 
>  I
> feel a classist reading of Tolkien coming on.  
> 
> darkelf, probably will make me unpopular
> 
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> 
> Yep.  Interestingly, to me at least, is that the dwarves rather looked
down
> on Bilbo (weak, middle class, and not really an adventurer) and he
rather
> looks down upon them (not of the Shire, don't you know?).  Neither group 
was
> quite the equal of the other, in their own opinions.
> 

Ah, the tension between aristocracy and middle class... (oversimplified,
maybe,
but good enough).  And then we have the servant, Sam, in LoTR... complete
with
a 'lower class' accent, to further complicate the mess.  

darkelf, who just loves Tolkien
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Yep, yet again.  As Alexi points out, he has the typical sterotype of a old
retainer.  Including being able to consider Mr. Frodo his superior and also
to consider Mr. Frodo total incapable of looking after himself.

Russ, the waterweasel


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