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to: stumper
from: satyr
date: 2007-03-28 19:26:28
subject: Re: God does not exist in the way expected by humans.

From: satyr 

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:07:03 -0400, stumper  wrote:

>satyr wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:43:17 -0400, stumper 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> satyr wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:59:24 -0400, stumper

>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>> stumper   wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It is my position that
>>>>>>>>>>> God is not something we can
understand so easily.
>>>>>>>>>> And yet here you are, insisting
that you are qualified to describe
>>>>>>>>>> the nature of God.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God is not something
>>>>>>>>> we just cannot understand anything
about it, either.
>>>>>>>> And yet here you are, insisting that oyur
definition of God is
>>>>>>>> correct.  You say you understand the
nature of God and say you cannot
>>>>>>>> understand anything about God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I go by the words of people who insist that
>>>>>>>>> they have had certain God experiences.
>>>>>>>> You are an idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any reason not to trust them?
>>>>>>>> Yes, idiot.
>>>>>>> Do you believe in your government?
>>>>>> Run away, moron.  Do like all the other morons do
when confronted with
>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>> How do you know that your government even exists?
>>>> Because the government is a completely known and well
understood human
>>>> construct.  It involves processes carried out publicly by known
>>>> persons and can be shown to have direct and obvious
influences on the
>>>> world.  The fact that nations can carry out complex activities like
>>>> WWII proves that governments exist.
>>>>
>>>>> What does it mean for it to exist?
>>>> What does it mean to mean?
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean to does?
>>>>
>>>> What?
>>>>
>>>> Wha?
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>> Have you heard of the kingdom of God?
>>>> Have you heard of Middle Earth?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thank you for trying to answer my questions.
>>>
>>> GOD is a completely known and well understood human construct.
>>> It involves processes carried out publicly by known persons
>>> and can be shown to have direct and obvious influences
>>> on the world.
>>> The fact that CHURCHES can carry out complex activities like
>>> WORSHIP SERVICE proves that GOD exists.
>>
>> You are confusing God with religion.  Religion exists.  God doesn't.
>
>
>Your god doesn't.

The only reason your "God" exists is that you persist in defining
him in unorthodox and inappropriate ways.

>A new working hypothesis:
>  God is a society of Christian faiths.

So god did not exist in 100BC, right?

>It does have a nice recursive ring to it, doesn't it?

I don't know, why don't you ask a Jew?

>God does not exist in the way expected by humans.

Thus you need to perversely define him in some way that he will exist. Why?

>God does not do miracles.
>God is not a supernatural being.
>God simply works through human beings.
>God does not even exist outside of human beings.

God = Santa Claus



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satyr  #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee Director, Gideon Bible
Alternative Fuel Project Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab

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