From: "Pinch" 

On Mar 27, 2:29 pm, stumper  wrote:
> Pinch wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 11:19 am, stumper  wrote:
> >> Pinch wrote:
> >>> On Mar 25, 10:19 pm, stumper  wrote:
> >>>> Richo wrote:
> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2:22 am, stumper
 wrote:
> >>>>>> satyr wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:48:16 -0400,
stumper 
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> satyr wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:58:00
-0400, stumper 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> satyr wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007
19:18:44 -0400, stumper

> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Conscious supreme
being who created the universe and is likely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> omnipotent and omniscient.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, you are such a
traditionalist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Still good enough.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't forget that we
don't have to be a physicalist here.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I would call myself a materialist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 'being'?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Entity, unit, item.  The
term is general.  The importance lies in
the
> >>>>>>>>>>> modifiers (conscious,
supreme) and the further description.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is God directly or
indirectly observable by humans?
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, because he does not exist.
> >>>>>>>>>> Should God be observable to exist?
> >>>>>>>>> No, but he must exist to be observable.
> >>>>>>>> Does the universe exist?
> >>>>>>> Yes, we can observe it.
> >>>>>>>> What if God is the universe and some?
> >>>>>>> I do not believe the universe has
consciousness and therefore does
not
> >>>>>>> meet my definition of God, although maybe
it fits yours.
> >>>>>>> If they are the same, then I submit that
using the word "God" is
> >>>>>>> superfluous and confusing.  The fact is
that most religions make a
> >>>>>>> distinction between God and his alleged creation.
> >>>>>>>> Do we still have to prove that God exists?
> >>>>>>> Not if you are going to define God down
to some inanimate object we
> >>>>>>> know to exist.  I know God exists, I
flushed Him down the toilet this
> >>>>>>> morning.
> >>>>>>> If you want to prove the God of my
definition exists, then you have
to
> >>>>>>> show him to me or prove that the universe
has consciousness.  Good
> >>>>>>> luck.
> >>>>>> "Conscious supreme being who created the universe
> >>>>>> and is likely omnipotent and omniscient"?
> >>>>>> Conscious of everything all at once always?
> >>>>>> Do you think that is possible?
> >>>>> No.
> >>>>>> What if God is everything there ever was,
> >>>>>> is, will be, and some more?
> >>>>>> It does exist by definition, doesn't it?
> >>>>> If you say "God is this small blue marble in
my hand" and you are
> >>>>> holding a small blue marble in your hand at the
time you say it  then
> >>>>> "God" exists.
> >>>>> You can name anything whatever you want - its not
interesting - it
> >>>>> brings no new information or knowledge or wisdom
into the world - but
> >>>>> you may certainly do it.
> >>>>> WHY would you do it though?
> >>>>> Cheers, Mark.
> >>>> Do you trust your government?
> >>>> What does it mean for you to trust your government?
> >>>> Do it even exist?
> >>>> How do you know that your government exists?
> >>>> In what sense does your government exist?
> >>>> --
> >>>> ~Stumper
> >>> Somebody please tell me this idiot really doesn't exist!!!
> >> You need to do a paradigm shift first to understand.
>
> > Repeating the same rant over and over again can be construed as SPAM.
> > Rethink your (inane) position.
>
> Are you sure?
>
> How many times you can say that God does not exist
> before you are spamming?

I never made such a declaration. But you're the one who insist he, she or
it does exist, so where's the credible proof? Or, should I just deem your
flagrant, baseless assertions SPAM?

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