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echo: r_catholic
to: Syd
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-28 13:35:22
subject: Re: Do we still need to prove God`s existence?

From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 28, 10:14 am, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 27, 4:13 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 26, 4:20 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 5:47 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 10:39 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 9:32 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007
19:06:28 -0400, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar
2007 11:07:54 -0400, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime G wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How do you know that you are not being deceived every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
results are predictable, then one is hardly being
deceived.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
has to be so regular and coherent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Observation
shows that it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other way around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It cannot but
appear that way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we are
assuming the physical world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be regular and
coherent to make it predictable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What? The observations
are consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to
prove that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the physical world
is actually that way everywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what? Science isn't
about proof, it's about evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already have
some reasons to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is not the
case in quantum physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But no other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
absolutely no reason to assume that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God should exist
physically as well as spiritually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is absolutely no
evidence to support any claims about any
gods,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the one you are
trying to sell.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever fallen in
love with anyone?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ever fallen in love with
someone, ever fallen in love with
someone,
>>>>>>>>>>> ever fallen in love with
someone you shouldn't have.."
>>>>>>>>>>> PDW, who's guitar is in the shop..
>>>>>>>>>> God is everything there ever was,
is, will be, and some more.
>>>>>>>>>> Do we still need to prove God's existence?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>> "Jesus died for somebodie's sins,
but not mine.."
>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>> Do you believe in the historicity of Jesus
of Nazareth?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>> Any interest?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>> Well, if you have any actiall evidence, present it..
And bible stories
>>>>> don't count, either.
>>>>> PDW
>>>> Even cargo cults are based on actual delivery of some cargoes.
>>>> If you just remove all miracles and supernatural allusions,
>>>> there remains a person who was poor and powerless
>>>> but lived a good life and said a lot of wise things.
>>>> It's highly unlikely for myth makers
>>>> to make their hero so pitiful and die such a horrible death
>>>> unless they are talking about what actually happened.
>>> Wrong.
>>> Again.
>>> PDW
>> You don't have to reply
>> if you are not interested in the issue.
>>
> None of us are particulary intrested, Stupir.. Haven't you figured
> that out yet?
>
> PDW
>

You mean you just don't know
how not to reply to someone?

Do you want me to filter you out?

--
~Stumper

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