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to: Daryl Stout
from: Matt Bedynek
date: 2015-06-27 07:34:24
subject: DUAL SOFTWARE SETUP

On 6/16/2015 4:19 PM, Daryl Stout -> ALL wrote:

 DS>    This may be a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
After> all, Sysops are like ham radio operators...we love to experiment.
It too have always be a tinkerer. I am surprised I never got into ham radio
but I did not know anyone who was in it personally. I always enjoyed
experimenting with different software - especially the software written in
R50 at a time when there was often no English documentation accompanying
it. It was fascinating that R50 existed in a bubble of sorts because none
took interests in the going on there.

I recall dialing (~$2-3/a min) to R50 to 'freq' the latest Russian modified
Binkleyterm and other mailers. With no documentation I had to rely on
experience to make it work. At least their config verbs were in English! As
far as I can recall, I was later one of the first adopters of BinkP (in the
form of BinkD) in the US. I hated FTP for handling mail even though I had
derived a reliable implementation of it.

>    I am CONSIDERING going back to Synchronet to see if it has the
same> issues with the telnet server. It does have the ability to run
both> fossil and non-fossil doors (3.14 or above), as well as
DOOR32.SYS> (32-bit doors)...2 things with VADV32 can't do (fossil doors
only for> VADV32...unless one does a workaround with the Doorway
program).
I am currently evaluating whether or not I want to setup a bulletin board.
I believe the choice is between Synchronet and Mystic. My primary
motivating is to setup some old door games for myself. Secondary would be
to build an archive of all the old programs and make this freely available.
I need to do a bit more research on whether mystic has any web functions.
My goal would be to reel at least a few people in via web and encourage
them to go 'old school' using telnet. As a side note, people should get
away from using telnet. No privacy via authentication or encryption.

>    However, while the setup for Synchronet is tedious, I've done
it> before, so I just have to find the time to do it. One rule of
Sysoping I> learned over 25 years ago was that "unless you do the
setup work, it's> not your setup". If I got stuck, I didn't mind
another Sysop just> showing me "how the syntax worked"...then,
I could take it from there.> I've heard of Sysops who had another Sysop
basically do all the> work...then this "lazy Sysop" took all
the credit for it. I prefer to> give credit where credit is due.
I miss the thrill of 'making it mine'. I wasn't too creative when it came
to doing that but the journey was always enjoyable.

>    Can I still have the VADV32 setup on the computer, but except for
the> web server (I'd use the VADV32 setup with Uniserver), the rest of
the> BBS would be Synchronet. To me, it'd be like "the best of both
worlds".> My HTML knowledge is very basic...so, I like the
customization one can> do with VADV-PHP -- however, Synchronet's
webserver is a bit more> complex with customization.
Will you run both's telnet servers? If so, you could run one on on the
default port (23) and the other on (24). Or, if Synchronet supports SSH,
only enable SSH for it.

>    Every BBS software has its pluses and minuses with each Sysop, and
I> know one has to weigh the pros and cons of running it. There are
other> BBS packages out there, and I'm not knocking any of them...but
it's only> with GT Power, Synchronet, and VADV32, that I have experience
with.
One of the softwares I previously ran was RBBS. If I do go on this 'kick' I
would like to setup some of the other popular softwares of the time as a
'door' for people to experience nostalgia.

Matt

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