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to: stumper
from: Syd
date: 2007-03-28 13:03:14
subject: Re: Do we still need to prove God`s existence?

From: "Syd" 

On Mar 28, 1:35 pm, stumper  wrote:
> Syd wrote:
> > On Mar 28, 10:14 am, stumper  wrote:
> >> Syd wrote:
> >>> On Mar 27, 4:13 pm, stumper  wrote:
> >>>> Syd wrote:
> >>>>> On Mar 26, 4:20 pm, stumper
 wrote:
> >>>>>> Syd wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mar 25, 5:47 pm, stumper
 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 10:39 am, stumper
 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 9:32 pm,
stumper  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar
2007 19:06:28 -0400, in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat,
24 Mar 2007 11:07:54 -0400, in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime G wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In article ,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
stumper  wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How do you know that you are not being deceived every
time?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If results are predictable, then one is hardly being
deceived.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
makes you think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
world has to be so regular and coherent?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Observation shows that it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other way around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It cannot but
appear that way
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we
are assuming the physical world
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be regular
and coherent to make it predictable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What? The
observations are consistent.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no
way to prove that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the physical
world is actually that way everywhere.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So what? Science
isn't about proof, it's about evidence.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already
have some reasons to believe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is not
the case in quantum physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But no other.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
absolutely no reason to assume that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> God should
exist physically as well as spiritually.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
absolutely no evidence to support any claims about any
gods,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> even the one you
are trying to sell.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever fallen
in love with anyone?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Ever fallen in love
with someone, ever fallen in love with
someone,
> >>>>>>>>>>> ever fallen in love with
someone you shouldn't have.."
> >>>>>>>>>>> PDW, who's guitar is in the shop..
> >>>>>>>>>> God is everything there ever
was, is, will be, and some more.
> >>>>>>>>>> Do we still need to prove
God's existence?
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
> >>>>>>>>> "Jesus died for somebodie's
sins, but not mine.."
> >>>>>>>>> PDW
> >>>>>>>> Do you believe in the historicity of
Jesus of Nazareth?
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> ~Stumper
> >>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>> PDW
> >>>>>> Any interest?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ~Stumper
> >>>>> Well, if you have any actiall evidence, present
it.. And bible stories
> >>>>> don't count, either.
> >>>>> PDW
> >>>> Even cargo cults are based on actual delivery of some cargoes.
> >>>> If you just remove all miracles and supernatural allusions,
> >>>> there remains a person who was poor and powerless
> >>>> but lived a good life and said a lot of wise things.
> >>>> It's highly unlikely for myth makers
> >>>> to make their hero so pitiful and die such a horrible death
> >>>> unless they are talking about what actually happened.
> >>> Wrong.
> >>> Again.
> >>> PDW
> >> You don't have to reply
> >> if you are not interested in the issue.
>
> > None of us are particulary intrested, Stupir.. Haven't you figured
> > that out yet?
>
> > PDW
>
> You mean you just don't know
> how not to reply to someone?
>
> Do you want me to filter you out?
>
> --
> ~Stumper

Do what you like. I'm don't really care.

PDW

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