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from: georgea{at}cam.org
date: 2003-06-02 22:19:54
subject: Re: ATM: Field Rotation and GoTo Scopes

From: George Anderson 
To: Scott Berfield 
CC: atm{at}shore.net
Reply-To: George Anderson 


Even nicer since I seem to remember that Forth was written for scope
control. I used to have a nice little Forth interpreter for the Apple][
before I switched to the dark side.

George Anderson
Montreal Canada

Clear skies and good health

Scott Berfield wrote:
>
>  Wow - I haven't heard anyone even mention Forth in years. We used to
> call it a write once, read never language. Powerful, compact, and
> totally incomprehensible a day after you write the code. :)
>
> Some of the most violent arguments I ever heard back in the 80's were
> over Forth - proponents of the language tended to get a little, well -
> zealous in its defense. It is a great language for doing embedded
> control applications - as long as you never have to try to maintain
> someone else's code.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-atm{at}shore.net [mailto:owner-atm{at}shore.net] On Behalf Of
> Dwight K. Elvey
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> To: atm{at}shore.net
> Subject: Re: ATM: Field Rotation and GoTo Scopes
>
> Hi
>  Also look at evaluation boards from the original manufactures.
> These are usually cheaper than other SBC's. Another processor to look at
> is the 80186/188's. These have been around for a long time but can be
> handy. I have an evaluation board that was made by AMD ( we no longer
> make 186's ). It comes with enough flash and RAM to easily meet the
> requirements of such a system.
>  For languages, you should also consider using Forth. Especially while
> you are debugging things. Once you have your hardware up and running,
> you may want to switch to something like C because of source
> availability. It is quite easy to put a native Forth on most SBC's. This
> give one the ability to interactively debug and work out algorithms.
> I've used this language on all of the embedded applications I used to do
> at a previous employer( actually two back ). I even did one project that
> I rewrote things into C and still figured that I saved about a month on
> the project( a customer requirement ).
> Later
> Dwight
>
> >From: "Emery Greg" 
> >
> >Tom:
> >
> >Your welcome to pass along my email to your friend - I am not working
> >on it
> now, but hopefully in a year or so :).
> >
> >In terms of cost, if a cheap laptop can be bought second hand from the
> internet- the laptop and stepper interface via the parallel port is of
> the same order of cost as the controller board or SBC.  If you are
> buying a new laptop, microcontrollers or SBC is much cheaper.
> >
> >I just hate going to one of my clubs darksites and seeing a **&^%%!!!
> >laptop
> screen - even if it is in night vision mode.
> >
> >Jeff,
> >
> > I remember seeing the Rabbits.  The Motorola or Zilog seemed neet as
> > well -
> Basic or C language programming, in circuit EEPROM all via RS232.
> Doesn't get more convenient than that :):)
> >
> >ttfn
> >greg
> >
> ---snip---

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