On 01-18-98 William Elliot wrote to John Boone...
Hello William and thanks for writing,
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WE> JB> Now, let x be HR1 and y be HR2 and plot the point,
WE> JB> next let x by HR2 and y be HR3 and plot the point, etc.
WE> JB> Said plotting technique results in a distribution on the
WE> JB> x-y plane. Apparently, the smaller the spread, the more
WE> JB> likely death is to occur. The trick becomes what spread
WE> JB> is "Ok" and what spread is not.
WE> Given a function f measured at discrete times t1, t2, ...,
WE> ti, ... with ti < ti' where i' = i+1, plot the pairs <
WE> f(ti), f(ti') >. So what's the spread function? A measure
The spread function is the thousand dollar question and
one I am still pondering. Something, more mathematical,
"what is the minimum domain of the representation function
(f(ti),f(ti')) such that the heart shows sufficient chaotic
behavior?"
WE> of what? The function of your example is 60/(Pulse
WE> Interval). Why the reciprocal?
In response to "Why the reciprocal?" I assume by this
why plot (f(ti),f(ti'))? It was arbitary and gleamed by
the work of some in "Scientific American" four years ago.
There are many other ways to represent the data.
However, it a reasonable way to represent the data.
If you look at a -simple- system of degree 2, pendulum
with moving pivot point, the representation of the
movement of pendulum as a function of time could be
done by (P(ti),P(ti')).
It seems reasonable to continue the method of
representation with heart rate.
WE> Now if the pulse interval is holding steady, the points
Ah, bingo, in healthy hearts, the pulse interval doesn't
hold steady, but in fact is "choatic." Reason, the pulse
interval is a representation of a multiple of excitable
tissue or cells, in this case, the heart.
IOW, the less "choatic" the heart the more unhealthy
it is.
WE> will all fall at about the same point. A -small- spread
WE> but a likelihood of death?
We find that as the plot domain diminishes, the less spread,
the more unhealthy the heart.
WE> WE> uncertainty is frequent companion to diagnosis. Let me
WE> WE> know if you find any examples.
WE> JB> Right, now, I have 5 magazines to read, just got 4 in the mail,
WE> Any fuzz in any of these magazines?
Nope, the one I am currently reading, reentrant supraventricular
tachycardia, fast heart beat.
There doesn't seem to be much research in this area, perhaps,
there doesn't seem to be an awareness or understanding of "fuzzy"
or fractals.
Take care,
John
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