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echo: nopiracy
to: KALMAN DANIEL
from: COSTIN MANDA
date: 1997-05-15 08:11:00
subject: piracy

  Hello Kalman!
10 May 97 19:19, Kalman Daniel wrote to Michael Lutz:
 ML>> Just because you can't afford something does that mean you
 ML>> should steal? So if i can't afford a TV I should steal it?
 KD> The difference is, that if you steal a TV, someone won't have it.  If
 KD> you copy a software, noone looses anything.
   Come on, a simple "yes" would have been enough :> I have to say that it is
quite annoying to make a program and to see everyone not even thanking you, 
even
complaining about it, without paying a dime. Nevertheless, if everything 
ould
be payed for, the software development would suffer. And excuse me: if you 
can't
protect your software from piracy using software techniques, why wonder 
everyone
is using it? What is this? The "Just say NO!" commercial?
 KD>> But if I try a software (which is illegal with market releases
 KD>> now)
 ML>> A lot of companies offer demo programs.
 KD> Some do, some don't.
    Oh-oh! Deom programs. Like "Press a key! You see, if you'd have bought 
he
full program for only all your money, that key would've work". Demos are a 
pain
in the bottom. Only when I think of a message around here that offered a DOS 
6.0
with upgrade to 6.2 for _only_ 10$. If I have to pay 10$ for DOS, what would 

have to pay for Borland Pascal?
    And speaking of protection of software: program in Windows! Nobody even
bothers to start the damn thing up, how could anyone crack a program in that
catastrophy?
 ML>> If you pirate from a friend you can try theirs on their computer.
 KD> Don't tell me you see a huge difference between trying out something
 KD> at your friend's, or copying it, trying it at home and then erasing
 KD> it.  Do you really commit a crime if you erase it in say, an hour ?
    Hey! What is that "pirate from a friend"? If he is a friend of yours, 
hen
you _take_ from a friend. And you erase it in an hour if you don't like it...
 KD>> I may buy it in the future when I will have enough money.  Why ?
 KD>> For example because don't want to be fined or jailed, and I will be
 KD>> able to afford to support the author.
 ML>> That's said a lot more than it's done. I know a lot of people who
 ML>> pirate.
 KD> You buy everything you use ?
    To make a program you need a lot of other little useful programs. If 
ou'd
have to pay for ll of them you'd get broke before you even get started. Of
course nobody pays for everything, only for software they can't crack...
    And another thing: I have a program, a demo. If I debug it and 
eshareware
it, does that mean I pirated something? I mean: the demo was mine. Is there a
law that may forbid me to do whatever I please with the files on my computer?
 ML>> i don't know anyone who has ever later paid for what the
 ML>> pirated.
 KD> Well, you live quite far from here, so it's not your fault that you
 KD> haven't met me before :-)
   Oh, that refreshing smiley face... :) For a moment I thought you were
serious.
 KD>> So why is it illegal to try ANY software for at least a few days ?
 ML>> Give me a break. The only time a pirate only has something on
 ML>> their computer for a few days is when they don't like it
 ML>> otherwise they keep it for free.
 KD> I'm only saying that this trial should be free, and not considered a
 KD> crime. If they keep it, they do commit a crime.
    Yeah, yeah... All the copyright protecters blame the piracy: "the prices
are high because less people are paying for our product" but have you even 
heard
of a  market of monopoly where the prices lower by themself? If you couldn't
crack any program the prices would get HIGHER! So everyone: spare me the 
good
guy" concept... nobody is a good guy, there are only smart guys and stupid 
guys,
rich guys and poor guys.
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