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from: Bill Buckels
date: 2008-11-10 07:50:56
subject: Re: DOS 3.2.1 Create

"mojoehand"  wrote in message 
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>Can anyone tell me what this disk is?

Without looking at the disk or a list of the disk contents I can't say. This 
seems a little bit like ANIMALS doesn't it?

DOES IT HAVE RAWDOS ON IT?
NO!

Your message format seems amazingly Potteresque:)

Is this a disk image you have found somewhere or is this a real disk? If 
this is a real disk suggest you take the time to type and post the CATALOG 
or create a disk image and make it available for download and if this is a 
disk image (which by your post it seems not to be) why not post the link?

Here is a link (see far below) with pictures that may prove useful for you 
to determine if this disk that has your subject line in the form of some 
kind of hand written label on it (I am guessing since you don't say:) is in 
fact what I am suggesting.

>Obviously it has something to do with DOS 3.2.1.

What is perfectly clear to you is pefectly clear to you and remember, on a 
clear disk you can seek forever.

>Was it some type of updater disk?

DOS 3.2.1 was an updater disk. If it is the DOS 3.2.1 Master then yes since 
DOS 3.2.1 was an update. If not then maybe or yes or no.

Here's the link below, and good luck. Post the CATALOG would be best and 
provide a link to the disk image even better... or jsr $a56e (CALL 42350).

One more thing... I have a disk image here that says it is the DOS 3.3 
08/25/80 SYSTEM MASTER and it has MASTER CREATE on it. And I wonder why.

Bill

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http://apple2history.org/history/ah14.html

DOS 3.2.1
---------
This disk contained the new COPY program, and a program called "UPDATE 
3.2.1", which worked just as "UPDATE 3.2" and
"MASTER.CREATE" had 
previously. The update program was used to modify existing DOS 3.2 disks to 
the 3.2.1 version. As an bonus, Apple added some programs to this Master 
disk that were on the first DOS 3.2 disk. The included games and graphics 
demonstrations included "APPLE-TREK", "THE INFINITE NUMBER
OF MONKEYS", 
"BRIAN'S THEME ", and "BRICK OUT".

DOS 3.2
-------
DOS 3.2 included a program called "UPDATE 3.2", which worked much like the 
earlier program "MASTER.CREATE" in changing a "slave"
DOS disk into a 
"master" disk. As time went by, and more users had their Apple II's fully 
populated with 48K RAM, the need for such a utility became less and less 
important.

The file "RAWDOS" that was on the DOS 3.1 disk was no longer
needed, as its 
function was included in the "UPDATE 3.2" program.

DOS 3.1
-------
"MASTER CREATE" was a program that could be used to initialize a
"master" 
disk. Using the binary file "RAWDOS", it executed the DOS
"INIT" command, 
but put a version of DOS on the newly formatted disk that was 
relocatable.[10] When DOS from a "master" disk was booted on an
Apple II, it 
first determined what was size of the memory, and then loaded itself into 
memory as high as possible. The INIT command properly formatted a new disk, 
but created what Apple called a "slave" disk; that is, the DOS
loaded from a 
slave disk was fixed in memory to the same size as the computer on which DOS 
had been booted. In most cases this would not be a problem. However, the 
problem would surface if someone whose Apple II had only 16K of RAM shared a 
disk with a friend whose computer had, say, 32K of memory. Booting that 
borrowed disk would make the 32K computer appear to have only 16K of RAM 
(since it forced DOS to load at the highest location available to a 16K 
machine). A "master" disk was more versatile, being
"intelligent" enough to 
adapt itself to differing memory sizes.

Other bugs in early versions of DOS 3.1 included not being able to 
initialize disks with MASTER.CREATE unless the disk controller was moved to 
slot 7.
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