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to: MAURICE KINAL
from: BENNY PEDERSEN
date: 2017-09-03 22:25:00
subject: the berry fairies

Hello Maurice!

03 Sep 2017 07:35, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

 MK> Hey Benny!

 BP>> drop multilib, it saves ram, and raise speeds

 MK> I haven't used multilib since the first custom build I did way back 
 MK> when, around 15 years ago.  See below for the latest glibc deployed 
 MK> here;

after i dropped f-prot, bitdefender, it was not needed for me to use 32bit
glibc anymore, after that all was 64bit elf, and i got more memory to do other
more usefull things with it

 MK> ----- ':read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts
 MK> GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.26, by Roland 
 MK> McGrath et al.
 MK> Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 MK> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
 MK> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
 MK> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
 MK> Compiled by GNU CC version 7.2.0.
 MK> Available extensions:
 MK>     crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
 MK>     GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
 MK>     Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al
 MK>     BIND-8.2.3-T5B
 MK> libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC
 MK> For bug reporting instructions, please see:
 MK> .
 MK> ----- ':read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends

how do you make that output ?, imho its not ldd :=)

 MK> Furthermore there is no lib64 even as symlinks anywhere on the latest 
 MK> x86_64-silvermont-linux-gnu, or my other box which is a comparable 
 MK> x86_64-bonnell-linux-gnu.

this is generic how its done, just in case you have 64bit, and builded some
errors, you can do a bootstrap on 32bit to fix it, well its hard, but not for a
talented fool :=)

systemresquecd would just be better choice and chroot it there

 MK> The only reason I mentioned multilib was because someone here stated 
 MK> that he required 32 bit libs to run some games on what looks to me to 
 MK> be a 64 bit system.  Also it was a reply to one of my aarch64 running 
 MK> on a raspberry pi 3 so I suspect he thought that the aarch64 ought to 
 MK> be multilib which it isn't, or at least the one I first built wasn't.

i readed it as it was some game that is not localy compiled ?, or was localy
compiled but failed to work ?, hmm if it was gentoo it was just a matter of
revdep-rebuild :=)

 BP>> this is still not gentoo :=)

 MK> Correct.  I don't have any of their tools and instead built my own and 
 MK> so far continue to use those.  Simple, lean and mean for whatever task 
 MK> they are allocated to take care of.

i like to get lowpowered atom cpu bassed servers in comming years, here, the
old p4 is soon time to be retired as my best friend, done from my time learning
gentoo, and why use gentoo, if you google xpoint fidonet you can find redhat 8,
lol, maybe i could give Mr Maddog a fidonet number :=) (Mark Hall....)

he is well known in redhat and now small computers, and i have meet him in my
local town here in danmark, he sleeped around a mile from me, oh this memories

 BP>> but atom is atleast not supporting intel ME (nsa / fbi / silly
 BP>> govments interfaces>

 MK> I honestly don't care.  None of them are paying the bills here so 
 MK> their input ... or lack of it ... is of no importance, especially 
 MK> considering that they are US government and not Canadian.

its not that simple for all outside of canadien borders, nsa and danish
counterpart of it pet, do some silly privacy exchanges, and there is not even a
bill to pay

 BP>> if i know right systemd parts on linux help it

 MK> Not that I ever noticed.  I am still using sysvinit.  Also still using 
 MK> lilo instead of (U)EFI boots ... just like Mom used to do.  :-)

yep, i just dont know how and why linux have systemd at all

 MK> I see no reason to change ... yet.  Do you?

still using gentoo here with systemd disabled

 MK> Life is good,
 MK> Maurice

yep

 MK> ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
 MK> -+- GNU bash, version 4.4.12(1)-release (x86_64-silvermont-linux-gnu)
 MK>  + Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)


 Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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