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from: Bill Buckels
date: 2008-11-06 14:24:32
subject: Re: Building an Apple CP/M Disk

"Peter Dassow"  wrote in message 
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>First, thank you for your effort documenting this.

It really was no effort, but you are welcome.

>Second, unfortunately you covered how to use an AppleDOS-to-CPM program but 
>not how to get a virtual AppleDOS or Apple-CPM disk image back to work in a 
>real Apple II.

This is a well known process. I bought a Microdrive from Henry over at 
Reactive Micro and use Ciderpress to put my disk images on my CF card in the 
USB port on my Windows machine...  then I take the CF out of the Windows 
box, and plug it into my external CF drive on the Apple //e which also has a 
Z80 card. Following that I  use Diskmaker.8 on my Microdrive to write the 
CP/M disk image to a floppy. Finally, I boot from the floppy into CP/M.

First, I am a little surprised to hear that this is not common knowledge, 
but I kind-of think it might be. Also I wrote about it somewhere here around 
usenet a time or two.

Second, I am surprised that your tone is that I have failed to go far enough 
in sharing this knowledge. So there (see above) is one way to what you 
asked. There are other ways. A NULL modem cable is another way, etc.

Also, going in the reverse direction and making disk images is quite 
deserving of being documented as well, and next you'll be asking for that. 
Which seriously I don't mind, but I'll wait until you ask before I tell 
you:)

In the meantime it is snowing outside where I am and I have things that need 
to be put away and I can't stall any longer.

One more thing Peter... the Microdrive costs some money. There are other 
ways including the NULL modem that don't cost so much, assuming one has a 
serial card in the Apple II.

And there are experts here, and I am merely an authority so I wouldn't be at 
all surprised that you'll get all sorts of alternatives to my way of doing 
things from some real experts.

If you don't, I will gather-up a bunch of info and write a document on the 
ways I know to push programs back and forth between real Apple II's and disk 
images.

>Would be more interesting for me because I have a real Apple II not only an 
>emulator.

Above all else, we must keep you interested:) However, in case it escaped 
your fine mind, I am at risk of being accused of oleaceous behaviour in 
insisting to use Windows XP to both build CP/M 80 programs then to place 
them and run them on Apple II disk images without a Z80 or an Apple II in 
sight. One of the real experts will soon call me on this. I almost got 
"schmidt" earlier. A near-fatal miss

Be of Good Cheer,

Bill
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