| TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! | ANSI |
| echo: | |
|---|---|
| to: | |
| from: | |
| date: | |
| subject: | Re: Will those who pray to Jesus go to hell? |
From: "gaffo" CE wrote: > Jesus is the Almighty God, Arah. > > In the Gospel of Matthew, the verse you cite only shows us that Jesus > wants us to beware of people who only pay lip service to their faith. > Jesus refers to these people as wolves in sheep's clothing. He tells > us that we are to recognize these people by looking at their works. > > This is in keeping with the statement made by James in his letter: > "Faith without works is dead." > > It is also in keeping with the teaching of Jesus in Matthew 25 where > our Lord once again talks about people's works. > > "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, > he will sit upon his glorious throne, > and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate > them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the > goats. > He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. > Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are > blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the > foundation of the world. > For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me > drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill > and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' > Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you > hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? > When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe > you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' > And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever > you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' > Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, > into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was > hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no > drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no > clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they > will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a > stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your > needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do > for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' > And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to > eternal life." > > These passages in no way detract from the divinity of Jesus Christ. If > there were any doubt about that, we would only have to look at John > 8:58 - and here I am borrowing from the Catholic Answers site to more > fully respond to your question - where Jesus equates Himself with God > by saying: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am." In > John 20:28, Thomas recognizes Jesus's divinity when he falls at His > feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" Paul recognizes Jesus's > divinity when he writes in Philippians 2:6, that Christ Jesus "being > in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be > grasped." > > Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the > Last" to Jesus. This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: > "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of > armies: â ÿI am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no > godâ Ö" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12). > > This title is directly applied to Jesus three times in the book of > Revelation: "When I saw him [Christ], I fell at his feet as though > dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, â ÿFear not, I am > the First and the Lastâ Ö" (Rev. 1:17). "And to the angel of the > church in Smyrna write: â ÿThe words of the First and the Last, who > died and came to lifeâ Ö" (Rev. 2:8). "Behold, I am coming soon, > bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. I am > the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the > end" (Rev. 22:12â ô13). > > This last quote is especially significant since it applies to Jesus > the parallel title "the Alpha and the Omega," which Revelation earlier > applied to the Lord God: "â ÿI am the Alpha and the Omega,â Ö says the > Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" (Rev. > 1:8). > > I agree with you, Arah, that we should all read the Gospel of Matthew > - but we should read all of it and the rest of the Bible as well. > > > On Mar 27, 1:10â pm, "arah" wrote: > > My dear Christians. > > > > Please read and understand what Jesus said in Matthew. > > > > [Mt 7:21] "Not everyone who says to Me, ÅÆLord, Lord,â1 will enter > > the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is > > in heaven will enter. > > > > [22] "Many will say to Me on that day, ÅÆLord, Lord, did we not > > prophesy > > in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name > > perform > > many miracles?â1 > > > > [23] "And then I will declare to them, ÅÆI never knew you; DEPART > > FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.â1 > > > > [24] "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on > > them, > > may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. > > > > So stop praying to Jesus but pray and â pray and ask from Almighty > > God good post. in fact the Matthew quote (unlike what you claim - that faith results in good works) does not demand any faith in Jesus the Son, but only to do good works. there is no demand to believe in Jesus as the Son or of his sacrifice in order to be saved from Hell. All ya got to do is some good works and you are saved. ................................................. the total opposite of Paul's theology. where works mean nothing, Jesus message means nothing and only a surrendering to Jesus as God or the Son of God can save one's soul. there is nothing of Matthew in Paul's works. -- --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) SEEN-BY: 633/267 5030/786 @PATH: 261/38 123/500 379/1 633/267 |
|
| SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com | |
Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.