RB>> I am also eager to see a 33600 conneect with these Rockwell modems, to

 RB>> another Rockwell and also to a USR Courier.

 LD>  

 LD>  You will see 33600 rates with other Rockwell's,  I get them about 50% of 

 LD> the

 LD> time,  31200 the other 50%.

 LD>  

 LD>  Now with Couriers thats another matter...

 LD>  

 RB>> Has any one got access to BOTH a courier AND a Rockwell 33600???

 RB>> Could they please connet both mmodems together with a 1 or 2 metre

 RB>> modular cable and do a line probe with the courier?



 RB>> I wager that the Rockwell will not actually get up to 33600, due to

 RB>> its inferior Trellis code utilization.

 LD>  

 LD>  The Rockwell will not get up to 33600 with the Courier due to the 

 LD> Courier. 

 LD> Nothing to do with the Trellis coding.  It has to do with the bugs in 

 LD> early

 LD> Rockwell V.34 chips and the Courier taking evasive action because of 

 LD> this. 

 LD> Also I believe that there is some dispute between Rockwell / USR on

 LD> interpreting the V.34 standard with regards to negotiation of the 

 LD> protocol, 

 LD> something about the maximum bit rate they claim to support.

 LD>  

 LD>  But Supra for one have taken action on this and modified their firmware 

 LD> to

 LD> overcome the problem,  pity others haven't so far done so.

 LD>  



And I believe that Rockwell and USR are at each others throats again,

with the new x2 protocol. Rockwell are going their own way with this

and not agreeing to cooperate with USR and the rest of the

manufacturers.



Been there before, haven't we

Ehy cant people get along, It would save money..and mmmight even Make

some money.



Russell

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