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to: MIKE ANGWIN
from: TOM ENRIGHT
date: 1998-01-23 07:51:00
subject: Texas History

-=> On 01-20-98  15:50 Mike Angwin said to Tom Enright <=-
 TE>That treaty was never in effect.  The U.S. Congress never
 TE>ratified the silly thing; therefore it is null and void.  Mike
 TE>can rant and rave all he wants about the "Imaginary" Repoublic of
 TE>Texas, it doesn't exist.
 MA> Both houses of Congress, in joint session, voted to approve the
 MA> annexation of Texas under the terms of the Treaty of Annexation and
 MA> that resolution was signed by the President of the United States.
 MA> Texas, then, agreed to become an American state under condition of
 MA> those terms.
You are halucinating again Mike.  I submit the following excerpt
from the Texas State Library and Archives Commission to support
my position.  The entire document is too long to include in this
post.  I've posted the full documant in a two part post Robert if
you're interested in fact instead of fancy.
[ begin quoted material ]
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Narrative by Jean Carefoot
Texas State Library and Archives Commission April 1997
http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/lobby/annex/narrative.htm
Last updated may22,1997
Narrative History of Texas Annexation, Secession, and Readmission
to the Union
Texans voted in favor of annexation to the United States in the
first election following independence in 1836.  However,
throughout the Republic period (1836-1845) no treaty of
annexation negotiated between the Republic and the United States
was ratified by both nations.
When all attempts to arrive at a formal annexation treaty failed,
the United States Congress passed--after much debate and only a
simple majority--a Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the
United States.  Under these terms, Texas would keep both its
public lands and its public debt, it would have the power to
divide into four additional states "of convenient size" in the
future if it so desired, and it would deliver all military,
postal, and customs facilities and authority to the United States
government.  (Neither this joint resolution or the ordinance
passed by the Republic of Texas' Annexation Convention gave Texas
the right to secede.)
In July 1845, a popularly-elected Constitutional Convention met
in Austin to consider both this annexation proposal as well as a
proposed peace treaty with Mexico which would end the state of
war between the two nations, but only if Texas remained an
independent country.
The Convention voted to accept the United States' proposal, and
the Annexation Ordinance was submitted to a popular vote in
October 1845.  The proposed Annexation Ordinance and State
Constitution were approved by the Texas voters and submitted to
the United States Congress.
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[ end quoted material ]
I repeat the *most* relevant statements from the narrative:
       "no treaty of annexation negotiated between the Republic
       and the United States was ratified by both nations."
and
       "Neither this joint resolution or the ordinance passed by
       the Republic of Texas' Annexation Convention gave Texas
       the right to secede."
Give it up Mike.  There is *NO* Treaty of Annexation nor is there
an Independant Republic of Texas.  That republic permanently
ceased to exist in 1845.
T.E. - San Diego Ilks (Sgt. at Arms)
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