-=> Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 11-23-06  17:51 <=-

 MK> Right.  That is the usual reason.  However I still think it doesn't
 MK> require actual respect to pull that off but instead giving them the
 MK> latitude that any person should get to do their thing as long as it
 MK> doesn't harm others.  Something like that.

And what I've been trying to say is that that latitude is also a form of
respect.  It would seem that in most ways we would act similarly... but
apparently, describe what we do with different words... :)
 
 NB>> It is indeed a process... learning one's limitations and limits.

 MK> I still haven't really learned that other than physical limitiations. 
 MK> How about you?
 
To some degree, yes, I've had to, especially the physical, but also in
other ways.  Not that I've attained completely by any means... which is
why I referred to it as a process... 

 NB>> I'm pretty sure I'd agree with you that some of those things were 
 NB>> indeed sneaky, even though they thought they were smart... ;)

 MK> From my observations I see little difference except maybe the
 MK> intentions.  Sneaky doesn't always mean harm.  Does it?
 
Not in my book, necessarily...  but it does carry a connotation of
insincerity which I would try to avoid.  A sense of "putting something
over on" the other...  which more often that not does cause harm.

 NB>> more to the more general wisdom of being respectfully cautious where
 NB>> called for.  Jesus referred to that as being "as wise as serpents, 
 NB>> and as gentle as doves".   :)

 MK> Sometimes that works.

It works best when the two are properly combined...  :)  Too often the
wiliness of serpents is used rather than the wisdom... and the weakness
of doves rather than their gentleness.  Or one is emphasised much more
than the other...  :)

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