Hyerdahl wrote:

>
> You state that it is men who leave.
>
> When it comes to raising children, mostly women raise them, whether
> those women are wives, mothers, girlfriends or foster parents.  Men
are
> seldom the primary parent; men seldom choose those roles for
> themselves.  And, yes...after divorce, men abandon children.  You
> seldom hear of a mother abandoning.

Most men financially support their children. Men do not have the choice
to be the primary parent. Secondary partentage is forced on them
through economic neccessity or court order. After divorce is the key
word in the last statement. Divorce is initiated 75% of the time by
women. So with a divorce rate of 50%, it is safe to say that 37.5% of
men are forcibly removed from any parenting.

>
>  Often there is no father on the birth certificate because he is
> > either forced out, or she DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS.
>
> A man who is loose with his own seed, has already abandoned any
> children he might have had.  A woman owes such a man, nothing, no
> notice, no information;  he is just a wandering minstral in her life,
> and thus, becomes an abandoning father, by his very act of
> indifference.

How can a man who is not aware of a birth be an abandoning father. In
order to abandon, he must know the child exists. Your lack of respect
for fatherhood is duly noted.

> > If women and men have 100% control of where to place their seed,
both
> > should have 100% control of whether they choose to be parents.
Women
> > do, but men do not have a choice.
>
> Women and men have 100% of control OVER their seed, alone.  That
> doesn't give them control over where it is placed.  Obviously, many
men
> might desire to "place" their seed with Angelina Jolie or Haley
Berry,
> but no, they don't have control over that.  They do have 100% control
> over any risks they take placing their seed tho.  And the courts hold
> them accountable to any children with their DNA if there is no
> contractual obligation superceding, i.e. adoption.

Control over where to place your seed, or what seed to have placed in
you, is not the same thing as choosing to become a parent. You are
subverting the issue  again. The courts hold men accountable
financially, but do not enforce visitation or give men a fair chance to
be awarded primary custody. Men are forced out and forced to pay.

>
> > Take your birth control or don't fuck, it is that simple.
>
> You must be giving that advice to men dear; women already know the
> risks THEY take.  :-)

Men cannot take birth control, idiot. And if women already know, then
are they just too stupid to use the contraceptive methods available to
them? If the risks they take are worth the rewards, they will continue
to take those risks.

Obviously you are incapable of intelligent thought or distinction
between two different actions, sex and choosing to be a parent.



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