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Just as I have predicted many times, the men are back in their natural
position in charge of female sexuality:o)
"MCP" wrote in message
news:9_P%d.103597$ug2.63373{at}fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-campus21.html
>
> CARBONDALE -- On the dance floor at Gatsby's II, a popular bar at Southern
> Illinois University in Carbondale, a tall brunette drinks beer from a
> plastic pitcher while she grinds her backside into a man's body.
>
> A silver disco ball hangs overhead while a blond woman in a pink, pleated
> miniskirt writhes on her partner's leg.
>
> A girl notices that her boyfriend's attention is wandering. With a
manicured
> hand, she grabs his face and plants a Hollywood-worthy kiss on his mouth.
>
> On this sticky dance floor, littered with plastic cups and packed with
> gyrating bodies, women are the hunters as much as the hunted.
>
> Traditional stereotypes dictate that men want sex, and women crave love.
> But, on today's college campuses, students say those gender lines are
> blurrier than a pair of beer goggles.
>
> When a University of Illinois sorority girl observed over lunch at a
> Champaign cafe that "guys aren't looking for love," her
friend chimed in:
"I
> don't think we can blame it on the guys. I'm not looking for love,
either."
>
> "Girls are just as bad as boys now," another woman said.
>
> "To guys, [sex is] still like scoring," said author Tom
Wolfe, who spent
two
> years on college campuses researching his new novel. "The strange part is
> that it's become that for girls, too. They'll say, 'I scored Jack last
night
> . . . finally!'''
>
> A federal government survey of 4,600 college students found that slightly
> more male than female undergrads are virgins.
>
> Columbia College student Becki Mielcarski, 22, of Westmont, and her
> roommate, Kelly Stinson, 21, of Palatine, said women have sexual needs,
too,
> and there's nothing wrong with getting those needs met.
>
> "It's kind of like when you get a chocolate fix," Stinson said.
>
> "Women are so much more open now about their wants," added Mielcarski.
>
> Before the '60s, the thinking was that sex drives were like prostates and
> chest hair: Men had them; women didn't.
>
> Research on college campuses shows that the '60s sparked a sea change in
the
> way society thought about women and sex.
>
> "The big shift was that most young people came to believe that premarital
> sex became acceptable for women," said John DeLamater, sociology professor
> at University of Wisconsin-Madison and editor of the Journal of Sex
> Research. "That change in attitude led to changes in behavior."
>
> Yet, decades after the last bra was burned during the sexual revolution,
the
> playing field in the battle of the sexes is far from level. Men wield much
> of the clout in relationships, and age-old double standards still limit
> women's sexual freedom.
We're in control girls, you can't win.
>
> "We've made a lot of headway in sports with Title IX, with women in law,
> medicine and a lot of areas," said Stanford University sex educator
Donnovan
> Somera Yisrael. "But, in terms of sex, the mores and the norms that have
> been around for millennia are still there."
That's because regardless of how much we think people change natural law
doesn't.
>
> Girls kissing girls -- for boys
>
>
>
> In college campuses' hookup culture, where brief sexual encounters are the
> rule, research suggests that men call most of the shots when it comes to
> relationships.
>
> After a hookup, it's often men who decide whether anything more will
happen.
> The woman usually ends up initiating "the talk" to determine whether
they're
> officially a couple. By having to ask the question, the woman assumes the
> risk of rejection. It's a risk historically taken on by men when asking
> women on dates -- a practice that's now the exception rather than the rule
> in the world of higher education.
As it should be since men take every other risk in life, a risk of rejection
is really quite trivial.
>
> "Although many people would say that women today have more power in
> relationships than women did in the 1950s -- and women indeed do have far
> more social power today -- in reality, they may not have nearly as much
> power in relationships with men as they appear to," says a 2001 dating
> report commissioned by the marriage-minded Independent Women's Forum.
>
> Said Jessica Schuh, 22, a U. of I. senior from Edwardsville: "If a guy
likes
> a girl and he calls her after a hookup, that's cool. But, if she calls
him,
> she becomes 'the crazy girl.'"
Female stalkers are very common today.
>
> Experts suspect a big reason college men often have the upper hand in
> relationships boils down to supply and demand. Female college students
> outnumber males -- a trend that started around 1980 -- and that translates
> into more competition for men's attention.
>
> One popular way of getting that attention, at least at parties and on the
> dance floor, is for women to hit on each other.
>
> "A lot of girls do it to get men going," said Jenny Sabella,
21, a junior
at
> Columbia. "They'll be at a party and be drunk and start making out with
> another girl to get noticed."
>
> "It works, too," said Columbia senior Andrew Greiner, 26.
>
> Pressure to please
>
>
>
> In the ongoing quest to attract men, some worry that women are selling
> themselves short and putting themselves in danger.
>
> Stella Iwuagwu, a public health teacher at SIU, waves a condom during a
> campus meeting about sexually transmitted diseases and tells the mostly
> female audience that "AIDS is not a gay problem, it's all of our
problem."
That's false. Cases of AIDS among young women are very rare.
>
> Iwuagwu said that many young women, lacking self-esteem and aiming to
> please, don't make men wear condoms.
>
> "Nobody is going to treat you better than you treat yourself," Iwuagwu
tells
> the crowd. "Have courage. Make demands."
>
> College students -- male and female -- agree that there's a lot of
pressure
> on women to have sex if they want to keep men.
Well how else would they keep them? lol Men and females have virtually
nothing in common except sex.
>
> "It's like, you meet a guy and start talking to him, and, if you don't go
> home with him that night, that's it,"
That's my rule :o))
said Veronica Ruiz, 20, a student at
> Prairie State College in Chicago Heights.
>
> The perceived need to go to bed with a guy just to start a relationship is
> something new, said Tom Wolfe, whose latest sex-spiced novel, I Am
Charlotte
> Simmons, is set on a college campus.
>
> "The constant demand is that the guy gets the dessert first and he'll work
> his way backwards to the soup, which is being introduced," Wolfe said.
>
> That's because sex plays a huge role in relationships, Columbia's Greiner
> said. "A lot of times, I won't know if I really like a girl until after we
> have sex."
>
> Double standards abound
>
>
>
> While it's generally considered OK for today's college women to want sex,
> it's clearly not OK for them to want it too much. That would make them
> skanks, sluts, couches or ho's, while male libertines are called players.
> When a woman makes the morning trek back to the dorm after the previous
> night's hookup, it's dubbed the "walk of shame." For men,
it's the "stride
> of pride."
Yers these females can talk the talk but can't walk the walk(of shame) haha
>
> The result is that college women often find themselves balancing their
> sexual liberation and their reputation.
>
> Kenny Shogren, a 22-year-old U. of I. senior from Chicago, said his
> fraternity brothers have plenty of hookups, "and we don't think of [the
> guys] as whores." But "girls who hook up a lot don't have a good
> reputation," Shogren said, adding, "It's a double standard,
but it's still
> true."
>
> Fellow frat member Chuck Ochab, 21, of Chicago, put it this way: "If I go
> all the way with her on the first night, this isn't a girl I want to
date."
>
> It's a message that's sometimes lost on college women, especially
freshmen,
> according to the Independent Women's Forum report. "A lot of freshman
girls,
> especially when they first get here, think sex will lead to a
relationship,"
> a Colby College student said in the report. "And that's not true."
>
> Women in college who have sex outside of a committed relationship often
end
> up taking steps -- dangerous steps -- to avoid being labeled a slut: "You
> have to do two things: Get drunk first, and don't bring a condom,"
> Stanford's Yisrael said. "You'll probably get an STD or get date-raped,
but
> your reputation will be fine."
That's false. The chance of either is very slim.
>
> Experts who track alcohol consumption on college campuses say they're
seeing
> an increase in heavy drinking among females -- a cause for concern, given
> that nearly three quarters of college rapes happened when the victim was
so
> intoxicated she was unable to consent or refuse,
Victim? lol if both people have been drinking there is no victim. It's
called using poor judgement, learn from your experience.
according to a Harvard
> study released last year.
>
> "Some women say they really want to have sex, but there is a religious
> prohibition or a parental voice in their head," said Cheryl Presley,
> director of the Core Institute, a federally funded project based at SIU
that
> annually tracks undergraduates' drinking and drug use. "They'll say, 'I
can
> blame the alcohol. I was wasted.' They'll go out with the guys and get as
> drunk as they do."
Typically female, blame someone or something.
>
> According to a 2003 Core survey of 36,000 college students, about 48
percent
> of women and 61.5 percent of men say drinking "facilitates sexual
> opportunity.'' About 13 percent of female college students say alcohol
makes
> them feel sexier.
>
> Alcohol also makes it difficult to get to know someone, lamented SIU
> sophomore Laura Teegarden, 19, of Batavia.
>
> "You think you have this great conversation with someone at a bar or
party,"
> said Teegarden. "The next day, you see them sober, and they're totally
> different, and they don't remember anything."
>
> No more MRS degree
>
>
>
> Many college women today say they don't expect or want to find a spouse at
> college. Only 19 percent polled in the dating report "strongly agreed"
that
> they'd like to meet their future husband at college.
>
> "I don't plan on getting married until I'm 26 or so," said Johanna
> Borgsmiller, a 20-year-old junior at U. of I. "I still have time to get
> serious."
>
> She does, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The age people get married
> has gone up considerably in the last quarter century. In 1970, the median
> age of women walking down the aisle for the first time was 20.8 years. In
> 2003, it was 25.3.
>
> "You have this elongated period of adolescence and young adulthood that
> gives [students] a lot more time to experiment," said Patricia Koch, an
> associate professor at Penn State who has studied sexuality for more than
20
> years.
>
> Some women say that, if marriage looms on the distant horizon, there's no
> sense getting bogged down in serious relationships during college.
Instead,
> they get their sexual needs met through a series of casual hookups,
Men can do this,females can't, there will always be a double standard. A man
can shag a 100 girls and still be thought of as good marriage material but
what man wants a girl who has fucked a 100 guys for a wife or mother of his
children? A man might tolerate 2-3 lovers but he can never look at a female
who has had many with respect.
which
> can elicit a range of conflicting emotions. Sixty-one percent of women who
> said a hookup made them feel desirable also said it made them feel
awkward,
> according to the college dating report.
>
> "If it's a hookup where [I] actually stayed there ... I just want to get
out
> of there as fast as possible the next day," said a University of Chicago
> woman cited in the report. "It's that 'walk of shame' thing. You've got
> front desk people you have to get by. You hope you don't see anybody else
in
> the dorm. And you look like you had a rough night. It's just, like,
> awkward."
>
> 'It's like an orgy'
>
>
>
> Wolfe believes hookups are "much harder on women than on men" because
"there
> simply just isn't as much at stake for the guys.''
>
> "Women tend to keep a record of their hookups,'' said Wolfe. "Guys
couldn't
> care less -- 'That was last night; what's out there tonight?'"
>
> Plenty is out there, said Vanessa Patterson, 21, an SIU senior from
> Chicago's South Side. Patterson said college guys don't want
relationships.
> "They just want some booty."
>
> And some women are happy to deliver.
>
> "It's like an orgy," lamented Patterson, who is appalled at
the "lack of
> morals" among some of her classmates.
>
> University of Washington sociologist and sex educator Pepper Schwartz said
> she has noticed more bravado lately among college women boasting about
their
> sexual conquests. She suspects a lot of it is just talk.
Females are all bullshitters.
>
> "Are they really happy? Sometimes, I think not," Schwartz
said. "In the
end,
> they're still looking for a boyfriend. They're still looking for respect.
> They ultimately want to pair up, not just hook up."
Exactly.
>
>
> --
> Men are everywhere that matters!
>
>
>
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