I bump into Terry trying to explain to Eric something about Re: Car Audio? 
 EF> First of all, do you know exactly how loud 130db 
 TS> But some idiots LIKE hearing damage.    
 EF> I think "idiots" is a bit harsh, let's say "fools"!
 TS> After a bit too much of that, I don't think the idiots will be able to
 TS> hear what we call them.  
Frankly, I don't think they really care! The only thing I want to make
sure is that they don't come screwing with MY hearing or someone's I
care of!
 TS> cars creeping into the discussion of rooms and venues.  +5/-20 wouldn't
 TS> be anything abnormal for overall response over space and time in some
Wow... a 25dB spread! Wouldn't that just sound HORRIBLE?
 TS> enough scrambled gray matter that they're only trying to be picky with
 TS> alphabet soup, not real specs.  
Some of them simply don't understand specs and are thrown around without
any understanding. It is the same with statistics. You could have
numbers says anything you would like if you don't take into account test
conditions!
 
 EF> how low and how high sound will be reproduced. That is to say that a
 EF> +/-3dB 20-20K will most probably be a 40-16K +/- 1dB. With theses kinds
 TS> Not through speakers at more than one spot in an untreated room.  
No, acoustics is another thing! I taking pure components specs. The same
speaker could have BOTH thoses specs listed, but 40-16 +/- 1dB is a lot
more precise and less misleading than 20-20K +/-3dB!!
 
 TS> From what a B&K rep mentioned, if you could survive the heat on some
 TS> of NASA's launch pads, they might be a few dB louder.  Know any jerks
 TS> who pretend they like loud sound who'd like to compare?  (My example
 TS> should yield around 165 dBspl, while NASA spec's instrumentation mics
 TS> capable of 180 dB max from B&K.)   
I try not to hang out with such people!
 TS> 15-130 dBspl would be ideal IMHO.  Occasionally I've even been in a
I would deal with 40-120 quite perfectly in most cases!
 TS> room that approaches that lower limit.  Unfortunately, I've been known
Really?! And where would that be?
 TS> Derby, about 10 miles from New Haven.  
Just curious, I have a friend who lives in Manchester!
        Eric,...
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