From: Attila 

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:11:50 GMT, "Patriot Games"
 in alt.abortion with message-id
 wrote:

>"Attila"  wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:42:03 GMT, "Patriot Games"
>>  in alt.abortion with message-id
>>  wrote:
>>>"Attila"  wrote in message
>>>news:g7eo035kbk3dc5611vrqdo9b8a4ol2tjpo{at}4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:37:49 GMT, "Patriot Games"
>>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You made an assertion - it is your burden...
>>>>>>>>>No such burden exists.  I can say
anything I want, I can make any
>>>>>>>>>assertion
>>>>>>>>>I want.
>>>>>>>> Of course you can.  But those who make
claims are expected to prove
>>>>>>>There is no such expectation upon me, or
recognized by me.
>>>>>> Why am I not surprised?  That of course tells a
lot about you and the
>>>>>> validity of anything you say.
>>>>>Right...
>>>>>>>> them or be considered an unreliable source
of information.  Is
>>>>>>>> anything you say true?  How is one to know?
>>>>>>>All you have to do is read the Bible and obey
God's Word, God told YOU
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>stop sucking dicks.
>>>>>> Prove any god ever existed, ever said anything,
and that particular
>>>>>> source has never been verified.
>>>>>> You can't seem to stop thinking about one
particular subject.
>>>>>Maybe a priest could help you break your addiction to cock
>>>> Assuming facts not in evidence.
>>>They say the first step in any treatment is admitting that you have a
>>>problem...
>>>>> and get you right
>>>>>with God.
>>>> Unlikely since I would refuse to hear anything said prior
to proof of
>>>> the existence of a god being presented.
>>>> Can you present such proof, since you just asserted a god exists?
>>>I can do (or not do) anything I want, with no need whatsoever of your
>>>permission or acceptance.
>> Correct.  However, those who make statements asserting something and
>> then cannot or will not support those statements quickly gain a
>> certain reputation, the nature of which is obvious.
>
>And you think I care about that?

Probably not.  It was mostly a warning to anyone who might possibly be
inclined to believe your pronouncements.

>
>> If you wish to be
>> known as someone whose word cannot be trusted I have no problem with
>> it.
>
>I care what you have problems with?

Of course not.

>
>>>>>>>>>You can't do shit-all about it.
>>>>>>>> I can simply point out the facts.
>>>>>>>The relevant fact is that you should stop
sucking dicks because God
>>>>>>>said
>>>>>>>so.
>>>>>> There is that one-track mind again.
>>>>>> Prove any god ever said anything.
>>>>>Don't have to, don't need to.  Its all on you.
>>>> Why?  I have asserted nothing.
>>>I've proven to myself, for myself, everything I need to know for myself.
>> Fine.  But that is not sufficient reason for anyone else to believe
>> anything you say.
>
>I don't care what you believe in.

What I believe is not the issue.  The obvious fact that no one should
believe anything you say is the issue, however.

>
>>>Feel free to do the same for yourself.
>>>>>  Whatever you do the rewards
>>>>>are for you and the punishments are on you.  I'm not even in the
>>>>>equation.
>>>> You are evading the point again.
>>>> Why am I not surprised?
>>>Why are you wasting my time, again?
>> Why not?  You waste time making statements you cannot or will not
>> support, thereby showing you cannot be believed.
>
>Perhaps you should avoid reading statements that you don't or won't
>believe...

Now that would be quite a trick - knowing the contents of a statement
before it is read.

>
>Just a hint.

Why not come right out and say it?

>
>>>>>>>>>> or as a result of inaction make it obvious
>>>>>>>>>> that anything you say must be
viewed with suspicion.
>>>>>>>>>Feel free to view anything you want any
way you want.
>>>>>>>> I do.
>>>>>>>>>> You owe me nothing - I am simply
pointing out the facts.
>>>>>>>>>You're pointing out your personal
opinion, which is worth less than
>>>>>>>>>nothing
>>>>>>>>>to me.
>>>>>>>> No, it is a fact you make claims and
assertions and then cannot
>>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>The Bible says what it says.
>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>>>>>> So does Hustler and Playboy.
>>>>>>>God told you to stop riding dicks with your ass.
>>>>>>>> How is anyone to know you are not just
making stuff up as you go
>>>>>>>> along?
>>>>>>>Read the Bible.
>>>>>> Verify it first.
>>>>>It doesn't work that way.
>>>> Yes, it does.
>>>I owe you nothing.  I have never owed you anything.  I will never owe you
>>>anything.
>> True.  My comments are to the burden you assume whenever you make an
>> assertion.
>
>No such burden exists, therefore I cannot assume such a burden.

You need assume nothing.  When someone makes a statement if they are to be
believed they have the burden of supporting that statement.


>
>> Proof of that assertion establishes the validity of your
>> comments.
>
>I already know my comments are valid to me.  Your opinion of them is
>entirely worthless to me.

But how is anyone else to know they are valid if you will not support them?
 If they are just valid to you why bother stating them here?

>
>> Failure to prove your assertions, either by evasion,
>> refusal, or denial established something entirely different.
>
>I care?

Probably not.

You evidently don't care if anyone believes you or not.

>
>> No matter what is established the result is always clear.  As it is in
>> this case.
>
>I care?

Probably not.

You evidently don't care if anyone believes you or not.

>
>>>Whatever you owe yourself is your problem, not mine.
>>>>>>> Obey God.
>>>>>> Prove any god exists.
>>>>>That part is on you.
>>>> Not if I did not make the assertion, as you did.
>>>I owe you nothing.  I have never owed you anything.  I will never owe you
>>>anything.
>> See above.
>>>Whatever you owe yourself is your problem, not mine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you're not sucking
dicks God is happier with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove any god exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>I don't owe you anything.
>>>>>>>>>> True, but you just made another
assertion and the above scenario
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> play again.
>>>>>>>>>There is no scenario in play.  I owe
you nothing.  No such burden of
>>>>>>>>>proof
>>>>>>>>>exists.  Your problems aren't mine.
>>>>>>>> I have no problem - I am simply point out
how you make assertions
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then refuse to support them.  That
naturally leads to any reader
>>>>>>>> wondering if anything you say is true
since you refuse to support
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> comment.
>>>>>>>You have a problem with God because He told you
to stop sucking dicks
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>you won't obey...
>>>>>> Again, no response.
>>>>>My response is simple:  You're not my problem.  Nothing
you do or don't
>>>>>do
>>>>>can affect me positively or negatively in any way
whatsoever.  Its all
>>>>>about
>>>>>you for you.
>>>> Again, evasion.  As expected.
>>>I owe you nothing.  I have never owed you anything.  I will never owe you
>>>anything.
>> See above.
>>>Whatever you owe yourself is your problem, not mine.
>>>So far as I can tell the only issue here is your desire to
subvert my free
>>>speech rights.
>> You are free to say anything you like.  Just as others are free to
>> decide whether your statements are true or not.
>
>You just now figuring that out?

No, I have been aware of it for some time.  You, on the other hand. appear
to either not know or don't care.    Which is it?

>
>>>Are you what they call an "Internet Bully?"
>> Not at all.  I have never tried to limit your comments - I have only
>> asked you to support them.
>
>Right.

I am glad you agree.


>
>So by now you know that you'll get nothing from me?

By Now?  I have received exactly what I expected from you before I typed
the first letter in my first comment.  Constant evasions and your total
failure to support your assertions.

>
>And by now you know that I will continue to say anything I want?

Of course.  And I will point out the validity of what you say, and the
reliability of your comments.


>
>And there is NOTHING you can do about it, right?
>

I wouldn't if I could.  This is much more productive as well as more fun.

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