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echo: philos
to: WILLIAM ELLIOT
from: CLARENCE HOGAN
date: 1998-01-17 16:13:00
subject: Universes [2/2]

 >>> Part 2 of 2...
 particles or atoms, if you wish and living micro organisms which
 react and inner act with each other in a pre-programmed fashion by the
 basic governing laws of the universe that were instituted before the
 beginning of creation and which they are unable to deviate from in
 any fashion or instance!  And such precision could NOT have come 
 about by any such "Big Bang" explosion as some have postulated!
 For are we not able to see with our own eyes and mind the unerring
 workings of the universe that it was designed to work in from the
 beginning of it's conception and that there has been no deviation
 for the last 6000 years of men's observance of it and therefore
 since we do see a design in it, it had to have had a designer, right?
 To try and give you another view of the universe, just look at your
 own body, does it not operate on the same exact principle and design
 and does it not complete it's appointed tasks just as it has been
 programed to do, and yet it does not think, now does it?
 CH> As to where a man is when he is asleep, from what has been said
 CH> between us to this point, IMHO he would have to be at rest from the
 CH> chaos that you have been speaking about and unless his mind is active
 CH> in the  process of dreaming, he is truly in nothingness and complete
 CH> rest while his body is busy making repairs to the chaos that he
 CH> himself has created within his system and slowly bringing itself back
 CH> to peak health and efficiency!  Whatdaya' think?
 
 WE> I think you get the idea of a nulliverse. 
 
 If what I have described is what you call a nulliverse, then I am
 beginning to follow your line of thinking to a point!  It was just
 about all that I could logically come up with from what you have
 stated so far!
 CH> ... Once upon a time there was no time and so it shall be again!  :)
 
 WE> In no time at all time began for its time had come.
 
 CH> EXCELLENT summation in as few of words as possible!  Did you thunk
 CH> that up all by yourself or did you steal it?  :)
 
 WE> 	Why ask unanswerable questions?  Because I enjoy a good story, don't
 WE> you? Now let me tell you about a cosmic plasmic orgasm that went
 WE> 'BANG' or did it go 'SHOOSH'?  Anyway once upon a nanosecond, an
 WE> instant before time, there was an Infinite Shoosh everywheres coming
 WE> out of nowheres and with it's coming out for the first time there was
 WE> time for it's time had come. 
 
 Why not ask unanswerable questions?  If one does not ponder what seems
 to be impossible, how will he ever know that it is truly impossible?
 Are not all things possible to those who use their heads for something
 besides a hat rack?  Explain just how something can come from nothing!
 Explain how life can come from non-life!
 WE> ... I think, therefore the universe thinks.
 
 CH> Prove it!  :)  For the simple reason that the universe is completely
 CH> and perfectly obedient and the fact is that if it indeed did think of
 CH> it's own volition, it would no more be obedient than man is, correct?
 
 WE> Do what thou wilt, be the whole of the law.  ---Crowley(sp.?)
 
 Exactly, do what thou wilt, BUT be prepared to pay the consequences
 of your actions if they are contrariwise to the immutable basic laws
 of the universe, correct?  But what are those laws you say?  That
 my friend is exactly what we are here for...to seek them out and
 learn to obey them so that we may eventually live a long and 
 prosperous beneficial life, for ignorance of the law is no excuse!
Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence.......
... I call things as I see them..If I don't see them, they must be Spirit!
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30
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