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echo: 60s_70s_progrock
to: SCOTT RHODES
from: CLARK RAY
date: 1996-09-28 11:54:00
subject: Re: Genesis

The message from Scott Rhodes rises higher:
 CR> I remember actually laughing a bit when I heard "Grendel" and that
 CR> part for the first time.  He He.  Extreme Genesis influence all over
 CR> that song.
 SR> I've actually never noticed any particularly strong influence beyond
 SR> the obvious bit in the end section.  What strikes you as being "extreme
 SR> Genesis influence" besides that?
First off, I think the opening is a nod to Zeppelin's "Stairway..."
The overall form of the song is a nod to "Supper's Ready" and side 2 of
_Abbey Road_ (in a way).  There's Fish's voice which sounds like Gabriel
in Genesis in 1971 to 1972.  Then there's Rothery's guitar which, to me,
has a thinner Hackett sound.  It gets *very* Hackett like from 7:00
through 9:00 minutes into it.  The bass through here is like
Rutherford's on _Foxtrot_ and _Selling England_.  I was going to say
that the keyboard that comes in at 9:23 is Banks-like, but it's not
really.  His sound actually reminds me of Epidaurus, of all things
(Epidaurus was a German Prog-synth band in the 70s that sounded more
than a little like Genesis).
Then there's the "Apocalypse in 9/8" part.
What makes it not Genesis is the drumming, which is too controlled and
not Genesis-like.
So, maybe "extreme" was too strong a word, but there's more than a
little Genesis influence there.
 CR> I've never been as crazy for that song as a lot pf people
 CR> seem to be, but it's OK.  They've done better, in my opinion (ex:
 CR> "Forgotten Sons").
 SR> I definitely agree, but then, if you listen to just "Incubus", it
 SR> becomes equally obvious that they've done worse.  And that's before
 SR> they sold out.
Hmm, I like "Incubus."  The reason for that may be because it's from
_Fugazi_, which, as you may know, I like considerably.
All of this talk of Marillion has made me listen to all this stuff
again.  I'd gotten quite tired of it a few years back, but there's still
more than a few passages here and there that still get to me.
NP: "Hotel Hobbies" -- Marillion
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- Clark Ray                                                  -
- email: clarkray@psnw.com                                   -
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