Hey Nancy!

Oct 12 15:02 06, Nancy Backus wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 NB> Ah.  They probably wouldn't have admitted to being overtly 
 NB> disrespectful
 NB> anyway... :)

I can only recall one instance of me pushing that point and I seriously
doubt it altered the amount of respect they actually had or have towards
me.  Now that you have me thinking about it I recall at least once them
demanding respect from me towards them but they did it individually rather
then a group effort.

Hm.  Funny how respect works.

 NB> You probably knew more about the woman experience than
 NB> they were giving you credit for, as well... if you'd paid any 
 NB> attention
 NB> at all to the "wife stuff" or to the "mother
stuff"...   Or had a
 NB> sister you were close to, for that matter... :)

Two sisters, one older and the other younger.  They were completely
different from each other so I am not entirely convinced I have a good
handle on women in general.  In fact if the truth be told I think that it
may have been more advantageous not to have that experience.  :-)

We'll never know for sure will we?

 NB> But of course!  :)  It also helps to be reasonably bilingual in
 NB> male/female languages...  

Sometimes.  One thing I believe is that it is best to keep the extra ace up
the sleeve and never play it.  Most times it is best not to even threaten
to play it.  Just be a man and suck it in is usually the better course of
action.

Right?

 NB> Hubby tends to be pretty fluent in
 NB> female, as he was raised by his mom after his dad died.  He was only 
 NB> 9,
 NB> his brother was 12...  and Mom was fairly open with them both, 
 NB> possibly
 NB> even as much as she might have been had she had daughters instead.

Good for her.  I think the lines of communications between my mother and I
were pretty good.  However the problem with using her as a measure of women
in general would be a mistake, other then perhaps as a rough guide.  I
certainly don't wish to replace her with a wife, girlfriend or any sort of
male/female relationship thingy.  I only had one mother and she is
irreplaceable.
  
 NB> And
 NB> I tend to be fairly fluent in male, having been "one of the
guys" all
 NB> through college (6 years worth).  It really has come in handy when 
 NB> the
 NB> two of us have done some couple counseling together... 

I was under the impression that counselling took more then just two sessions.  ;-)

Most guys are really easy to figure out so I think you have the better
advantage.  Just don't overthink it as you'd be giving them far too much
credit.

 NB> :)  When we've been at our camp, back in the days when the kid was
 NB> younger and with us and all, he used to make the rounds of his 
 NB> favorite
 NB> people up there.  Sometimes even in the mornings before we were up... 
 NB> :)
 NB> They could always tell when we were in, when he came a-calling... 

That sounds familiar.

 NB> I think most of us sowed at least some wild oats... and made poor
 NB> choices...  Hopefully we learned from it all, though...  

We're still here so at the very least we survived.

Life is good,
Maurice

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