TW>>>>> There is Really NO SUCH a Thing as a Palestinian. They are
 TW>>>>> just a collection of other arab countries trouble makers.

 BK>>>>  The notion that any people would endure 6 decades of such
 BK>>>>  conditions to make trouble is just a bit absurd. The
 BK>>>>  Palestinians were there before Israel. And even Jewish writers
 BK>>>>  mentioned them long before the establishment of Israel.
 BK>>>>  Relatively few Jews were native to that land before 1947. Lots
 BK>>>>  of Arabs were.

 BA>>> And every single Arab there was an invader.  There's a
 BA>>> reason that one particular nation on the planet is called
 BA>>> 'Arabia.'  The fact that those Arabs conquered Palestine,
 BA>>> North Africa, a goodly chunk of southeast Europe and most
 BA>>> of what is now the Middle East (plus most of Spain) and
 BA>>> live there now is irrelevant.

 BK>>  Um... other than Europe, the Middle East was occupied by Arabs
 BK>>  since... well... Biblical times. That is why both Arabs and Jews  are
 BK>> considered semites. And the nation called Arabia is Saudi  Arabia,
 BK>> named after the House of Saud, by the British, not the  Saudis. The
 BK>> only parts of North Africa I can think of where  the inhabitants are
 BK>> not called Arabs are Egypt and Iran.

 BA> Two of the tribes native to North Africa are the Tuareg and
 BA> the Berbers. IIRC they are nomadic and live in the deserts
 BA> of Libya and Algeria.

 Arabs were generally nomads until recent times.

 I had heard of both the Tauregs and Berbers, but didn't know
 much about the Berbers, and less about the Tauregs. So, I did a
 quick Google.

 Seems the Tauregs are a branch of Berbers. And both are
 minorities just about everywhere they live. Though, from looking
 at the map of the areas they are mostly found in, they, much
 like the Basques in Europe and the Kurds, if you seperated out
 the areas they are concentrated in it could form a good sized
 country. All and all North Africa is Arab, though. This is
 Saharan Africa, as Sub Saharan Africa is usually considered
 seperately.

 OH, and Genetic testing seems to indicate only about 1/3rd of
 Berber Genetics are long time North African. The rest is
 sub-saharan, and European. Interesting that.

 Just about every inhabited place on this planet is inhabited by
 somepeople who were once invaders. The Berber domination was a
 thousand years ago. I won't try to keep up with that.

 BK>>  Egyptians are called just that,
 BK>> and Iranians are called  Persians. Yet we non-North Africans see no
 BK>> noticable difference  between them.

 BA>>> Note also that today there seems to be an Arab invasion of
 BA>>> Europe in progress. A 'peaceful' invasion, but an invasion
 BA>>> nevertheless.

 BK>>  One that could be ended easily, by overthrowing the
 BK>>  dictatorships that rule most of North Africa.

 BA> Hardly, most of the 'peaceful' immigrants are from the
 BA> Middle East, not North Africa, although a lot of native
 BA> Algerians have migrated to France. The invasion I referred
 BA> to seems to affect mostly Britain, Germany and northwest
 BA> Europe - the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark.

 Yeah, and much of it is due to bad economies, often due to
 misrule in the countries of origin.


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