BA> Replying to a message of Bob Klahn to Bob Ackley:

 BK>>>>  In case you forgot, it's the duty of an occupying power to
 BK>>>>  provide for the occupied population.

 BA>>> Yes it is.  And the situation of the so-called Palestinian
 BA>>> people is the direct result of actions taken by the
 BA>>> governments of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and, to a somewhat
 BA>>> lesser extent, Jordan - none of which have adequately
 BA>>> provided for those people to whom they offered "refuge."

 BK>>  And if you are correct, then Israel does get blame for punishing  the
 BK>> Palestinians for what those other states did.

 BA> Note that the so-called Palestinians were so grateful to
 BA> the government of Jordan for providing shelter for them
 BA> that they attempted to overthrow the government there.
 BA> Which is why King Hussein threw them out thirty or so years
 BA> ago.

 Look at what the Mimi types have said about that. First, you
 really should drop the "so called Palestinians" line. They
 really are palestinians. They are much more so than anyone can
 claim to be an Isreali other than a small handful whose
 ancestors have live there for the last couple thousand years.

 If you accept that there are no Palestinians because they were
 not Palestinians when they were ruled by other countries, then
 there hasn't been an Israel for well over 2000 years. So, there
 are no real Israelis.

 And the theory that all the real Palestinians left, and are
 being held in internment camps while the Arabs govts moved in
 fake Palestinians is as absurd as it can get.

 If that were true, why has the Israeli govt established that
 they will not let those Palestinians return?

 Then consider that, according to the Mimi-types, Jordan *IS*
 part of the Palestinian territory, which means they have as much
 right to rule there as any regime imported by the British. More
 so, in fact.

 BK>>  Notice, also, Israel occupied the Palestinian territories for
 BK>>  over 30 years, and did not adequately provide for them either.

 BA> I've read that most of the peaceful Arabs living within
 BA> Israel are better off than their brethren in any of the
 BA> bordering countries, whether or not they're 'Palestinians.'
 BA>  Apparently Israel *does* provide for those arabs living
 BA>  within its borders.

 And does not provide for those under their occupation.

 Remember, the Arabs living in Israel have *NOT* been under
 Israeli army occupation for 38 years. Nor have they been subject
 to Israel restrictions on the import of food and medical
 supplies. The Palestinians in Gaza have been.

 Look at a map of the West Bank. The settlements take up a huge
 portion of the land alloted to Palestinians. And there are roads
 in the West Bank only Israelis are allowed to use.

 How far would it get if there were roads built in Texas only
 Mexicans were allowed to use? About as far as the nearest
 assembly point for Texas vigilantes?

 Keep this in mind. Mimi has been citing sources that support an
 organizaton the *ISRAELI* gove has labeled terrorist. And her
 sources favor driving all Arabs out of "Greater Israel", which
 means all the land allocated for the Palestinians.

 Now, is that rational?

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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