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to: Maurice Kinal
from: Nancy Backus
date: 2006-12-12 20:43:06
subject: Re: respect

-=> Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 12-10-06  16:10 <=-

 MK> Exactly.  I am not sure which is worse but if internal conflict can be
 MK> avoided without external grief continuing to be grief then I'd be
 MK> inclined to say what's on my mind and get it over with.  That is
 MK> probably why I live alone eh? 

Well, if the grief can be short-circuited by saying something that's
actually a good thing.  (And are you suggesting that you live alone
because no one else wants to stick around such a curmudeon...?  Or that
it's your decision to live alone so as to avoid external, and most
internal, grief?  )

 NB>> Yeah... both for good and for bad...   Encourages riding out the
 NB>> storm, at least, in case something much better comes of it after all! 
 NB>> :)
 MK> Something like that.  Either that or just continuing out of spite.

And then good comes serendipitously...?   ;)

 NB>> My point was more that it takes an awful lot of their doing to 
 NB>> totally lose my respect...
 MK> Understood.  My point was/is that one has to have respect before it
 MK> can be lost and that it isn't an automatic thing or at least I don't
 MK> feel it automatically despite the regular everyday latitude.  I realize
 MK> that is what others call respect and is where I differ in the
 MK> definition of respect.  I don't believe appearances to always reflect
 MK> reality, in this case inner true feelings.

Perhaps another way to describe it would be that this "low-level" form
of respect would be seen as a *potential* for respect?  That when one
first meets someone, there is a potential either for respect or for the
lack thereof...?  If someone does enough to destroy even that potential
for respect, it becomes almost impossible to ever regain even the chance
that respect (in the way both of us agree the term applies) could be
gained.  In that sense, respect is lost, even if never truly had in the
first place.

 NB>> be a constant reminder of the situation... like a spouse of a beloved
 NB>> family member, as an example... 
 MK> Understood.  I could cite an example but I'd rather not.  One of those
 MK> internal struggles as it were that is best kept internally just to
 MK> keep the peace.
 
Yup.  And yes, I also refrained from citing any particular examples,
though I have enough of them myself.

ttyl       neb

... Me? A sceptic?  I trust you have proof!

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