Replying to a message of Bob Klahn to Jeff Binkley:

 BK>>>>  OTOH, maybe Mimi should check her history.

 BK>>>>  Israel invaded and occupied the West Bank and Gaza in the 1967
 BK>>>>  war. They pulled out in 2005. 2005-1967 is 38 years. Which is
 BK>>>>  nearly 40.

 BA>>> You might look at your history too.  The so-called 'West Bank' is
 BA>>> the area between the original east border of Palestine/Israel (the
 BA>>> Jordan River) and the 1948 cease-fire line imposed by the UN.  Had
 BA>>> the UN allowed the  Israelis to finish the job there never would
 BA>>> have been a 'West Bank.'

 JB>> Indeed.  Wars are often fought because prior wars were not
 JB>> completed.

 BK>  All wars are fought because prior wars are not completed, if by
 BK>  completed you mean the loser is not able to start over. The only  way
 BK> such a war is completed is by genocide. Anything less is  just the
 BK> prelude to the next war.

"Carthago delenda est."

 BK>  The only alternative to that is, defeat the enemy government,
 BK>  then give the people true freedom and democracy.

How do you defeat radicals that don't have a government?

 BK> Probably also
 BK>  have to merge the two countries, with complete equality between
 BK>  the peoples. I have long said, democracies do not go to war with 
 BK> each other.

 BK>  So, the only way to win a war permenantly is to fight the war
 BK>  for the benefit of the people your enemy rules.

 BK>  When do you expect to ever see a war finished?

The one Bush minor started?  Never.  I won't live long enough.  Your
grandchildren might.

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