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 MG>> I'm unaware that Klahn has ever made a "valid" claim
in Fidonet.

 BK>>>>>  Critics say at least 68 deaths in Gaza in February and 62 in

 MG>> Why do we never see these white antisemitic bigots crying about the
 MG>> elderly Jewish women blown to bits by "suicide" bombers, or the

 Why do we never see these White Jewish bigots crying for the
 Palestinian children denied a future under nearly 40 years of
 Israeli rule?

 In case you forgot, it's the duty of an occupying power to
 provide for the occupied population.

 MG>> children in daycare centers or the Bar Mitzvahs, etc, etc. If Klahn
 MG>> ever even once said he felt bad about the hundreds of thousands of
 MG>> Israelis who have been killed, injured and kidnapped by a world
 MG>> recognized terrorist group I might think he's not a bigot. I'm not
 MG>> holding my breath.

 Hundreds of thousands? In the local paper there was a letter to
 the editor complaining about the lack of condemnation of the
 thousands of rockets launched against Israel every day. So, I
 looked it up. It hasn't been a thousand a year, less wise
 thousands a day. Very few Israelis were killed by any rocket
 attacks. And that after Isreal launched the attack on Gaza.

 Israeli retaliation tends toward kills of 10 to 100 to one. And
 there is little evidence of the claimed care to avoid civilian
 casualties. Just last night I listened to the Voice of Israel,
 downloaded from the World Radio Network, wrn.org. They had the
 Secretary General of the UN saying how he had complained to the
 Prime Minister of Israel about the attack on the UN compound,
 and the Prime Minister admitted it was a terrible mistake.

 Just about everybody here knows about the attack on the USS
 Liberty, which few believe was a 'mistake'.

 The attack on the UN observers in Lebanon, which consisted of
 shelling them for 6 hours until they were most certainly dead,
 was also called a 'mistake'.

 While looking into the claims about the Catholic Church not
 working against the holocaust I found that some Jewish leaders
 in the Warsaw Ghetto had a chance to evacuate their children,
 but refused to because they said that the Jewish faith could not
 survive if the children were removed without the parents, so it
 would be better if the children died with their parents.

 Seems like the extemists in Israel are pulling the strings all
 the way. Even the extremist website, massada2000.org, that Mimi
 loves so much, doesn't seem to value Israeli Children above
 biblical land claims.

 JB> He's a lost cause.  It's not worth considering his point of
 JB> view.

 You damn yourself with your own words.

 JB> He came on to me as an overzealous humanitarian,
 JB> which could be a good thing. Trying to find the good in
 JB> him, although I didn't agree with his agressive approach to
 JB> racial issues, I never insulted him maliciously.

 You don't know shit. So, now you say your insults weren't
 malicious? Why do you need insults at all? I did not insult you
 at all. I have even been decent to you in this echo where you
 parrot Mimi's hate line. I held to the view that you just might
 be capable of rational discussion. Apparently I was wrong.

 The reality is, there are more Jews in Israel that disagree with
 Mimi than in this country. In Israel, where they are on the
 front lines, they recognize truth has to rule over propaganda,
 otherwise they are lost. In this country people like Mimi call
 anyone who disagrees with the extremists "anti-semitic". Guess
 what, the Arabs are more semitic than a great many Jews.

 JB> Now I know he doesn't have the mental capacity to recognize
 JB> terrorists (men with hoods and weapons) attempting to draw
 JB> fire upon themselves while standing in front of women,
 JB> children and other innocent civilians.  If he's a

 Show where it is happening? Those pictures you referred me to
 don't show one single instance. Hell, the US Marines train in US
 cities. Is that hiding among the civilians?

 JB> humanitarian, and he doesn't get it even when one draws him
 JB> a picture, I thought, maybe he just has a picture viewing
 JB> disability. However, now I am positive he's as bigotted as
 JB> any Nazi that ever walked the face of the Earth. I think

 Funny, I now see that about you. You don't seem to realize, in a
 long term conflict, the antagonists tend to become more like
 each other.

 JB> the Jewish Antidefamation League should hang him from his
 JB> pinkies and whack his white bare ass with a buggy whip.

 And you offer terror as your answer to rational discussion. You
 show yourself to be a terrorist at heart. Where do you get the
 standing to condemn those who do what you advocate?

 I have defended the existance of Israel more than you have in
 these echos, and better than you or Mimi have. Mimi's only claim
 to defense of Israel has been "they are attacking us". Screaming
 over and over that they are victims.

 I offered a real justification and defense for the existance of
 Israel. Only I also say you have to consider the rights and
 suffering of the Palestinians. That you don't seem to think
 matters.

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BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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