On a sunny day (Sat, 07 Mar 2020 13:25:02 +0100) it happened Axel Berger
 wrote in :

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> But those things like learn programming in 2 weeks make little sense to
>me,
>
>That's where you're wrong by your own premises. If you know your own
>subject well and know how to achieve a lot manually, then spending just
>two weeks learning the basics of how to automate can shove parts of your
>productivity by two orders of magnitude.

Depends... on how much you know I guess...


>You will never be a programmer but a far more competent expert in
>whatever it is you were an expert in before. And it may teach you just
>enough vocabluary and way of thinking to be able to team up with a real
>programmer and achieve something of general usefulfulness. (The
>programmer of course will have to put in at least the same two weeks
>before beginning to understand your language.)

That is correct, indeed learning a programming language in '2 weeks'
at least for me ..
I speak Dutch, English, German, French, and a bit Portuguese...
The first 4  were hammered into us at school, started French in kindergarten,..
Am a Dutch native.
It is a bit the same with C (as example).
You can, if you are into that, read 'Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie. The C
Programming Language'
maybe in a day? write the examples. learn how to use gcc (or any other C
compiler)
but then there are the methods, we can talk for example about linked lists,
hashing, etc..
I learned a lot from Dr Dobbs magazine as far as programming in C goes
-over the years- that is.
Just an other language? Ever tried x86 asm? My boss was really into that, would
sit next to me and hammer away,
One day I started using what was it? 8051 series micros in projects,
just an other asm, other processor structure, he then decided everybody should
learn C.
That is where I learned C (from an other programmer).
A few lessons of an hour or so, but that is then only where it starts,
I learned a lot about Z80 asm programming from some other book,
and those techniques I always use in other projects

I see people sweating with ICE, debuggers, I don't use any of that, use the
techniques I learned from that book,
was it Prof Alan Miller?
 8080/Z80 Assembly Language: Techniques for Improved Programming
Alan R. Miller


So if you think you know programming after those 2 weeks...
the BASICS (not BASIC) may be simple.. but that is where the really interesting
thing starts.

hashing:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/mach-ai-training-linear-cost-exponentia
l-gain/

One of my first C programs, the NewsFleX Usenet newsreader I wrote and have
been using for discussions like this ( -;) )
since I could not find a 'Free Agent' for Linux:
 http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
Look for hashing in the code!

But OK, BASIC can be learned in a flash, and you can do A LOT with it.
And then you still will have to KNOW what you babble about in that language,
being able to speak a language does NOT make you a great novel writer.
Tehre is a lot of babble going on bars etc...

And open source your code, so the genius can help others.

hehe

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