On 10/26/2016 04:13 AM, Paul Quinn -> rick christian wrote:

 PQ> So, which program put those messages into the echo's JAM file(s) in the
 PQ> first place? (I only ask as I 'seeded' _this_ node's messagebase with
 PQ> some matching JAM files from my other node, created by FastEcho [a DOS
 PQ> program].) If CM did the deed then are there any errors in the/a
 PQ> previous logfile, when the messages were tossed in?\

Yes. crashmail tossed these in, and I get log from this AM's run:

~/fido/logs$ fidomail
CrashMail II 0.71 started successfully!
Tossing files in /home/rec9140/fido/binkd/inb...

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Is in HandleMessage()

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Is in HandleMessage()
Filter: Copying message to area PERSONAL_MESSAGES

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Is in HandleMessage()
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Is in HandleMessage()
Is in HandleMessage()
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Area PERSONAL_MESSAGES -- 9 messages
Area BINKD -- 8 messages
Area NET135HUB -- 2 messages
Area FIDONEWS -- 8 messages
Area JAMNNTPD -- 6 messages

   Total ->     Read messages:     24     Written messages:      0
Imported -> Imported messages:     24      Routed netmails:      0
     Bad ->      Bad messages:      0   Duplicate messages:      0

Scanning for orphan files
Scanning for old packets
Scanning for new files to pack
Linking JAM area JAMNNTPD
Linking JAM area FIDONEWS
Linking JAM area BINKD
Linking JAM area NET135HUB
Scanning all areas for messages to export
Scanning area NETMAIL
Scanning area TESTECHO
Scanning area BINKD
Failed to read message #59 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/BINKD"
Failed to read message #60 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/BINKD"
Failed to read message #61 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/BINKD"
Failed to read message #62 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/BINKD"
Scanning area NET135
Scanning area NET135FILE
Scanning area NET135HUB
Failed to read message #56 in JAM messagebase
"/home/rec9140/fido/jam/NET135HUB"
Scanning area FIDONEWS
Failed to read message #86 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/FIDONEWS"
Failed to read message #87 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/FIDONEWS"
Failed to read message #88 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/FIDONEWS"
Failed to read message #89 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/FIDONEWS"
Scanning area RBERRYPI
Scanning area JAMNNTPD
Failed to read message #56 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/JAMNNTPD"
Failed to read message #57 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/JAMNNTPD"
Failed to read message #58 in JAM messagebase "/home/rec9140/fido/jam/JAMNNTPD"

No messages exported
Scanning for orphan files
Scanning for old packets
Scanning for new files to pack
CrashMail end

 PQ> Simply put: how can CM put things in that it cannot get out again?

I'd love to know, but crashmail just refuses to take the messages I put in any
echo area and export it.

 PQ> Something changed in the between-times? Some other program changed the
 PQ> JAM-stored data?

The only program to access things is Golded and Crashmail

I can read messages, BUT they have CORRUPT to and from headers, ie: garbled
names and node numbers.