-=> Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 10-25-06  04:25 <=-

 NB>> Actually, I tend to believe that there really is a difference between
 NB>> what is meant by the different uses of the term.  And that perhaps 
 NB>> we'd do better if there were different words to use in each case so
 NB>> we wouldn't get them as confused with each other.  And, as well, that 
 NB>> there is at least some validity to each of the various uses.

 MK> Interesting.  I've been thinking about it and it seems to me that I
 MK> know and yet don't know or at least am finding it difficult to put into
 MK> words. 
 MK> What do you propose?
 
I really don't know what other words (other than a string of
explanation) to use, either.  And just to complicate things, I'm
beginning to realize there is overlap between the meanings of love with
the meanings of respect... 

 NB>> respect.  I accept this use more on the basis of the fact that some
 NB>> people DO earn my respect by what they do (or don't do, in some 
 NB>> cases). 
 NB>> But I usually hear that one from those who are making tacit excuse 
 NB>> for their disrespectful behaviour.

 MK> Right.  I think that might also happen internally as in the case of
 MK> self respect and the loss of it.
 
You mean, that one feels that somehow one doesn't deserve respect due to
some action or lack of action?  Often that stems from a false guilt, or
someone else's laying on a guilt trip, rather than from any real fault.

 NB>> The reason I think that this is a different use of the word is that I
 NB>> feel it refers to a different level, possibly also a different kind, 
 NB>> of respect.
 MK> I am not sure.  When I think about respect, or the lack of it, it
 MK> seems to me to be quite clear and only has one 'meaning' but I cannot
 MK> really define in words what it really is.
 NB>> It's a matter of seeing that everyone, no matter how large or
 NB>> small, young or old, high or low, has value, simply because they ARE. 
 MK> Again I am not sure and yet strangely I think I am sure.  For instance
 MK> it is tough to have respect for those who appear to lack it within
 MK> themselves and that is usually indicative by their actions towards
 MK> themselves and most often others.
 
I would still see that person as having intrinsic worth, even if there
seems to be very little to command respect otherwise in their being or
actions.  So I would still treat with a certain level of respect, no
matter what.

 NB>> It doesn't mean accepting everything that they do, or say, or their
 NB>> value system either.  It's just a basic level of respect that anyone
 NB>> whatsoever should be given.  I think that the family sense of it is 
 NB>> more part of the next category, in most respects.

 MK> :-)  Ye ol' double meaning there methinks.
 
Oh?  Hmmm...  Oh...  Not intended... but, yet another meaning for the
word!?!

 NB>> I could probably add even more different senses of it, but I think 
 NB>> I'll not, at least for now... :)

 MK> Yeah.  It is a toughie all on it's own, no?

True enough.  :)

ttyl       neb

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