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date: 2003-06-19 16:25:26
subject: Re: ATM OT how the world displays numbers

From: "Suhas Gurjar" 
To: "McHatten, Shawn" ,
"atmlist" 
Reply-To: "Suhas Gurjar" 


In India, once we cross the limit of 1000 (Thousand - we cal it Hajar in
Hindi / Marathi and may be in few more Sanskrit based languages), we have
names for every step of multiple of 100. - 10,000 is called Ten Thousand
But 100,000 has name Lakh or Laksh
then 10 times Laksh is ten Lakh (Which means million in English system) But
100 times Lakh is Crore (100,00,000) then 10 crores
But 100 times crore is Abja (100,00,00,000) Likewise it goes on in
"Padma", "Mahapadma", "Kharva",
"Nikharva"   ----
"Parardha which is 100,00,00,00,00,00,00,000. As our steps are in
multiples of 100 after 1000 it is perfectly logical to have commas after
every 2 zeros after 1000.

Yes, we are proud, Indians invented Decimal system as well as 0 (ZERO). Suhas
Amateur Astronomer

----- Original Message -----
From: "McHatten, Shawn" 
To: "atmlist" 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:26 AM Subject: ATM OT how the world displays numbers


>
> Hi Guys
> Totally off topic gang but I thought this was interesting. We had a short
conversation on the list a while back about different units (metric vs
English, etc). I'm just wondering how many different ways the world
displays numbers regardless of the units of measure they represent.
Especially the Arabic numerals, that much of the western world uses.
> From private conversations with Kartik Patel I got interested in Bombay
(now called Mumbai). While snooping I found that they list large numbers
differently than I am used to. I've found this in other cases too. Just
wondering how many other ways countries use to do this. Below are some
samples of how to display one hundred and twenty three million, four
hundred and fifty six thousand, seven hundred and eighty nine, point, zero
one two three four five. So far I have:
>
> - in most of English NA 123,456,789.012345
> - France and French Canada (Quebec) 123.456.789,012345
> - Bombay, India 12,34,56,789.012345
>
> I'd be interested in hearing what other countries do with Arabic
representation or how other scripts split up their numbers, ie Russian,
Chinese, Japanese. Sorry guys, I don't even know what you use for numbers
:). Does anyone use commas AFTER the decimal place. How do you PRONOUNCE the
India version. Do you still use thousands, millions, billions. If so what
is the rationale behind splitting every two numerals instead of every
three.
>
> The Mumbai official site is:
>
> http://www.mcgm.gov.in/
>
> and their stats page shows that there were:
>
> 99,25,891 (As per census 1991)
>
> on: http://www.mcgm.gov.in/Stat%20&%20Fig/Index_Frame.htm
>
>
> The 99 million in the city really threw me until I noticed the commas had
been moved and it was really about 10 million. Again sorry for OT. Thought
others might be interested.
>
>
> Thanks
> Shawn
>
>
>
>

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