BJ> setup, and so were a "sysop" per the nodelist, and
 BJ> had access to this echo.

i don't recall this clarification being part of the requirement to have
access in any bbs support echo that is/was restricted to sysops only...
what if i'm setting up maximus and don't want to be in fidonet but access
the echo via another local bbs? i'd still be persona non grata by you're
statement above...

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