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from: Bill Buckels
date: 2008-11-18 08:50:56
subject: Re: cpmtools Win32 wanted

"Michael Haardt"  wrote in message 
news:491a81f7$0$11242$9b622d9e{at}news.freenet.de...
>Btw, there is 2.8 now, but it contains only a few small fixes, nothing that 
>helps with your problem.

1. Version 2.8 has different issues when building on my Windows machine than 
2.7. I have decided that I am more comfortable with 2.7. I am open to 
changing my mind if someone else will build 2.8 and get cpmchmod working 
with Apple II disk images. It doesn't work in 2.7 either but cacks badly on 
my 2.8 build in getopt I suspect.

2. I would also appreciate someone getting pdcurses working for the Windows 
build and then telling me in detail how they did it. I have built pdcurses 
with the intention of getting fsed.cpm built for windows but don't know 
where to place the lib file or the header nor how to edit the config to use 
this library with the putw check.

Or is ncurses better in Windows or is there actually an okey-dokey curses 
port that works since 2000 when John Elliot did the Windows port?

3. Udo Munk has presented many valid arguments throughout this thread. 
Although I still prefer the MinGW build without dependencies on cygwin1.dll 
his point of view is a reasonable and logical point of view and I thank him 
for taking time to present the arguments against native Windows in general.

I agree with Udo that one should expect more from Microsoft and also more 
understanding of unix in a comp.os newsgroup by people like me who profess 
to know everything.

However, since no-one can know everything despite self-agrandizing and 
self-indulgence I think that Udo really expects to educate people like me 
although he might have already given-up on Microsoft:)

4. Peter Dassow's enthusiasm over this whole Apple II CP/M business is also 
cool, as well as David Schmidt's.

5. I suspect that due to the 2 of them and Udo and Michael's feedback that I 
will keep going with the Windows build until I get everything including 
fsed.cpm compiled in 2.8.

In the meantime I am going to finish-off the cpmtools 2.7 Apple II Binary 
build with html manpages augmented with info on using cpmtools with the 
Apple II and distribute this from the Aztec C website, with an optional 
download of my build environment and the source and additional README. I 
will also put the completed html manpages live on the aztec c website.

That's my plan.

Thanks All who responded to this thread so far. This includes Rolf Harmann, 
Stevo Tarkin, and Richard Brady who probably doesn't even know watfor:) and 
others who will all be mentioned in my acknowledgements on this stuff unless 
they prefer not.

Bill
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