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echo: educator
to: MICHAEL MARTINEZ
from: RON MCDERMOTT
date: 1996-08-17 23:13:00
subject: MALE AND FEMALE

MM>You're showing your ignorance.  
 MM>The historical transition from gendered subsistence to dependence on
 MM>scarce products establishes my argument.
 RM> We'll see....
 
MM>Well that's real inciteful..  I don't have time to respond to nonsense
MM>like this.
You know, this is one of the first logical things you've
said.... Your propensity to be nonresponsive, while chiding
others for the same action, combined with the insulting
attitude you've now adopted because we won't roll over and
simply parrot your party line, makes you one of the very
few people with whom I've ever attempted to converse, for
whom the effort is wasted... You have no interest in truly
exploring Illich's points of view, you simply expect that
everyone will throw open their arms and embrace them, and
when they invariably fail to do so (which is a hint in
itself), you become abusive and refuse to respond to 
legitimate critique...  The exercise is pointless in the
FIRST place, because Illich's ideas, as stated by you,
cannot work, and will never happen within an organized,
technological society.  On a frontier, or in a society 
sufficiently advanced technologically to run itself (AI), 
perhaps, but not here, and not now or for the forseeable
future....  That's it for me....  Bye..
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