wood{at}futility.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:23:44 -0800 (PST), a2fan{at}hotmail.com wrote:
> 
>>>>> FWIW, the CTC was optional--I've never seen a card
with it installed.
>>>>> That suggests that very little software actually used it.
>>>> s/very little/no/
>>> Good. Less trouble making a clone. This is a very useful data point.
>> Count me in as an interested party... because all this CP/M talk has
>> gotten me curious.
>>
>> I'd recommend keeping the CTC if possible -- just because little to
>> nothing was written for it back whenever is moot. The people who are
>> interested in it TODAY are much more likely to want to tinker with it.
>> Their motivations are completely different and obviously not
>> commercially oriented. And how many times have we griped about a card,
>> whose designers or manufacterer cut corners, features. "If they'd have
>> only done this or used that... it would have been so much better."
>>
>> Don't make a JACPMC - just another CP/M card - make something awesome.
> Seconded. I have an MS Z-80, I can get a clone for $25. To make me
> want it, to make me open the IIe and replace the current card means
> that it must do something new. If it is JACPPMC, count me out. If it
> is something new, then I'm in. If it has its own CF (hard disk)
> storage even better, if it will use my current Microdrive CF, great. 

Do you consider any of this to be new?

Run CP/M 4x faster.  (With a little work, most Applicards could be updated to 
run at 8Mhz. ===> 5x faster.)

Locally-attached banked memory for ramdisk.

Environment easily extendable with "modern" (all relative)
Z-System extensions.

Video at least 10x faster - able to keep up with 9600 baud serial input (yeah, 
yeah, I know:  Big deal by today's standards.  But, quite an accomplishment 
for the day :-).  Noticeably quicker for scrolling in text files also).

Built-in print spooling.

Installable driver support for a wide range of Apple peripherals.

Ability to install on any (and I mean _any_ ProDOS volume).

All of the above and more is supported on an Applicard.

If your only Apple CP/M experience has been via the traditional softcard, 
you're in for a serious eye-opening!  I can only assume that the rising tide 
of early PC hardware prevented the Applicard / Starcard from proliferating 
more than it did.

And that's only the Applicard.  The CardZ180 adds the ability for faster clock 
speeds (16-18Mhz. now possible), direct file I/O between CP/M and ProDOS and 
much more.
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