On 2017-05-05, Martin Gregorie  wrote:

> On Fri, 05 May 2017 14:47:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 05/05/17 14:03, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>>
>>> 1) pass the Turing Test in more than one domain
>>
>> many usenet posters would fail that.
>
> and cudent even spel "Touring Test".

"Six weaks ago I cuddnt even spel 'porgramr' - and now I are one."

>>> 2) when asked a question in a domain it has learned it must be able to
>>>    (a)give a correct answer and (b) explain how it arrived at it
>>
>> A majorette of usenet posters would fail that.
>
> That depends on which ng you're posting in.

alt.malaprop?

>>> 3) be able to learn how to play a game or to understand a technology by
>>>    reading a book or manual (chess, go, C) or the game's instructions
>>>    (monopoly, D&D)
>>
>> Few people can do that these days.
>
> Do you mean they can't use book learning or don't want to?
>
> I hate to trying to learn anything from a video because the data rate is
> typically so much slower than reading text and because its difficult to
> stick bookmarks in a video.

I'm with you.  Text lets you proceed at my own pace, whether slower or
faster than a video - and you can jump back and review earlier material
at any time.

> In short, colour me totally bemused as to why anybody would choose to
> learn from a video when they can find a book or written instructions on
> the net. I suppose the only exception would be when its some really
> tricky manual operation and seeing it done beats looking at photos or
> diagrams.

Agreed, there are cases where watching something helps everything fall
into place in your mind.

    I hear and I forget.
    I see and I remember.
    I do and I understand.
      -- Confucius

>>> 4) be able to absorb more than one knowledge domain without getting
>>>    confused.
>>>
>> No one in politics would pass that.
>
> Very true.
>
>> The Rise of the Machines looms doesn't it?
>
> Still glowering distantly on the horizon: not nearly as looming as some
> would have us believe.

I'm less concerned about the machines than about the governments and
megacorps that program them.

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