-=> Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Danny Ceppa on 01-21-07  18:46 <=-

 CS>> And child as well as mother deaths are down almost the same amount.

 DC> The U.S.  infant mortality rate is on the rise for the first time sinc
 DC> according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  In 2001,
 DC> infant mortality rate was 6.8 deaths per 1,000 live births _ in 2002,
 DC> rose to 7.0. (2003 data is not yet complete.) 

 CS> So did you match that with age of mother for first birth and the
 CS> *equal* in  1968?  Or did you just spot a stat that matches what you
 CS> want to think?  Did  you match maternal death with child death or
 CS> ignore it as if the mother was  irrelevant?

 CS> Think Dan, think.
 
As I told him, stats can be used to prove just about anything...

And I don't think he's really listening to any of us...

 DC>> And, infant mortality for cesaerians is twice as great than that for
 DC>> a natural childbirths.  
 CS>> Butnot caused by thge cesearians.  The child's status more often
 CS>> determines that than the mother's.  IE:  High risk babies almost
 CS>> always delivered that way. 
 CS>> Statstics have to be looked at closely before they mean anything.
 DC> The fact is, infant mortality rates for cesaerian births.  

 CS> The fact is high risk babies die at a far higher rate and now, we save
 CS> more of  them than before due to cesarians.  We also have more 'high
 CS> risk ones' because  women are delaying that first child til they are 30
 CS> and over. xxcarol

Exactly.  And also, more of the teenage-mother births are being
classified as high-risk, as there are more and more of younger teens
giving birth.  Babies that couldn't have made it in times past are at
least given a chance now, with today's technology.  And sometimes that
includes a caesarian.

Also, as I tried to point out before, some of what would have been
"natural childbirth mortality statistics" have been moved over to the
other column, just because the c-section was tried in order to try to
save the baby.

ttyl         neb

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