"Michael Snyder" (msnyder{at}redhat.com) writes:
> "E/C Annie"  wrote in message 
> news:1111694436.881290.262200{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Michael Snyder wrote:
>>> "Ben"  wrote in message
>>> news:1111675176.492351.160880{at}o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> > E/C Annie wrote:
>>> > > > kate wrote:
>>
>>> > > > > What percentage of those boys deaths are due to auto
>> accidents?
>>
>>> > > > D.
>>> > > 2001 Chart data:
>>> > > Young driver fatalities:
>>> > > Male - 2611; Female - 997
>>> > >
>>> > > Young drivers involved in fatal accidents:
>>> > > Male - 5766; Female - 2371
>>> > >
>>> > > The above charts show involvement in fatal crashes and driver
>>> > > fatalities for young drivers (age 15-20) in year
2001, the most
>>> > > recent year for which data is available.
>>> > >
>>> > > While young females are less likely to be involved
in fatal car
>>> > > crashes than their male counterparts, it is worth noting that
>>> > > these numbers are beginning to even out. While the percentage
>>> > > of young male drivers killed in car crashes decreased 3% from
>>> > > 1991 to 2001, this category saw
>>> > > a 15% increase among young females during the same timespan.
>>>
>>
http://www.safeparents.com/teenage_driving_info_stats/teen_car_crashes_gender.php
>>> > >
>>> > > annie
>>
>>> Young men take part in more risk-taking behavior, and this of course
>>> results in a certain number of casualties.  To use this as an
>> argument
>>> that boys don't deserve any sympathy is pathetic, though, especially
>>> in light of the fact tha the original subject was scholastic
>>> achievement and disadvantage.
>>
>> Michael - I agree that the subject clearly got off-topic, and I joined
>> the O/T by responding with info that was requested.  My bad, but it
>> does seem to happen in many threads on atc, not just gender-based
>> threads.  My intent was certainly not to use this as an argument
>> against boys.  I agree boys are generally more risk-taking as well as
>> probably driving more than girls thus the stats are always going to be
>> higher for guys.  My girls much prefer the shopping malls to the
>> roadways.
>>
>> Just don't want to be accused of any wrong-doing when I was merely
>> providing data.  Gosh you have to be so careful when responding in this
>> group; some days it makes me just want to forget adding any response
>> :(((
> 
> Didn't mean to make a big deal out of it.  Just something that happens
> whenever victimization of boys or men is discussed.
> 
>>
>> Re the original topic - what has caused boys to lose ground in
>> education?
> 
> Are you serious?

Amazing, innit ? E/C Annie would do well to get some facts first.

Starting with " The War Against Boys; How Misguided Feminism Is
Harming Our Young Men ", Christina Hoff Sommers, " Stiffed: The
Betrayal Of The American Man ", Susan Faludi, and " Spreading
Misandry; The Teaching Of Contempt For Men In Popular Culture ",
Paul Nathanson & Katherine Young.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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