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Hyerdahl wrote:
> John Templeton wrote:
>
> > First of all, abortion isn't a "fundy" law.
>
> Not giving equal rights to women is ALWAYS fundy inspired by men who
> want control over women.
Not always.
>
> Their laws were fine as
> > they were: "Abortions are permitted in Portugal under exceptional
> > circumstances, including rape or medical need..." That's the way it
> > should be.
>
> Nonsense! In order for women to have the same privacy rights over
> their bodies, that men have, they must have the right to choose.
One person's privacy rights are another person's infanticide. Who's
right? Well, tell me if a 28 week old baby can survive outside the
womb (pssst--they can).
>
> "Portugal's teenage pregnancy rate is about 20 per 1,000,
> > among the highest in the European Union."
>
> Indeed. Now that laws are being eased, the girls will have more hope
> and more options.
In 2000, the rate in the U.S. was 83.6 per thousand. I'd argue that
the laws in the U.S. were more relaxed in this area than Portugal's,
wouldn't you?
>
> So what you're saying is Portugese teens should be allowed to have
> unprotected sex as much as they want, since they can always get an
> abortion later.
>
> Without such, you are only punishing teen GIRLS for sex dear.
How so, if you hold both the mother and the father 100% responsible?
> That's
> nothing new to sexists or fundies, and the press will be
acknowledging
> more and more how sexism and fundamentalism go hand in hand.
lol Would this be the same press that gets more discredited by the
day?
>
> What you're> suggesting is the legalization of mass murder caused by
> lack of morals.> You really are a dumbass.
>
> It would seem that I'm much smarter than any woman in your life; in
> fact, you're so totally unable to debate, you remind men of Steve
> Imparl, who I called 'Simpleton'. Now, get on your patriarchal high
> horse and pretend you control even one woman, dear.
Controlling women--and other men--is really pretty easy to do. Simply
live your own life the way you wish, and you've controlled them. Or
perhaps more accurately, controlled the amount of influence they have
over you.
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