MvdV> Yes, I forgot about it because it no longer exists here. Dial up
 MvdV> internet only exists in combination with good old POTS and that is
 MvdV> history in most parts of the world. I would not know of any provider
 MvdV> here that still offers dial up internet. It makes no sense. Voice
 MvdV> telephony is VOIP. Without a digital internet connection, you have no
 MvdV> telephone. And that internet connection is a 24/7 connection. Here
 MvdV> analog telephony only exist as the last decameter from the ATA next to
 MvdV> the cable modem to the telephone on my desk. And that last analog
 MvdV> decameter will be history in the near future too.

   I usually don't quote this much, but since I totally agree with everything you say, I couldn't trim the above.

   But I only want to add how easy it is for us Euro Trash Pacifist Shit Pig Pussies to forget how fortunate we are. I've lost count of the fibre adoption in Sweden, but last time I checked it was something like 90% of all households. I guess you in the Netherlands are not far behind?

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