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from: JACK SARGEANT
date: 1998-01-25 23:10:00
subject: More from Friedman

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:03:44 -0400
From: Stanton Friedman 
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto 
Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Comments on the UPN thing
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:00:41 -0800
> From: Marie Ivey 
> Organization: The Jackson Laboraotry
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto 
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Comments on the UPN thing
> > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:03:29 -0400
> > From: Stanton Friedman 
> > To: UFO UpDates - Toronto 
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Comments on the UPN thing
> > > From: KRandle993  [Kevin Randle]
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:18:06 EST
> > > To: updates@globalserve.net
> > > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Comments on the UPN thing
> > > First let me point out that this program was not disinformation,
> > > it was entertainment (not that Russ or some of the others have
> > > suggested that). It was produced to make money for UPN and Bob
> > > Kiviat. Too often we scream disinformation when we don't like the
> > > tone of the information out there.
> > > Second, I think it is important that we focus on the agenda of
> > > the UFO community. We all have expressed a desire to elevate it
> > > into the scientific arena. We all talk a good game, but too often
> > > it is only talk.
> > > Yes, we should be outraged at the program, but blame for the
> > > damage done to the UFO community is not in the hands of UPN, but
> > > in the hands of the UFO community. Once again, we have shot
> > > ourselves in the foot.
> > > KRandle
> > Kevin:
> > I still
> > haven't a tape of the show so can't check. What is the source of
> > this info?
> > Stan
> Someone out there must have video taped this program.
> Would someone please send Stan a copy.  I fell asleep before the
> credits but it was obvious to me that this was an attempt to make
> fun of those of us that believe something real is going on.
> Please let up on Stan. This is not the first time someone
> credible has been used to add credibility to a hoax or if you
> will, entertainment.
> Best regards,
> Marie
Marie:
I am being sent a copy of the program. What I was asking about
was a reference by Kevin and Russ Estes to Bob Kiviat being
involved with the UPN show.. which I had not heard in California
or elsewhere. It turns out this was false information as
acknolwedged by Kevin. If I had known that Bob Kiviat was
connected with the show, I would never have done it based on my
dealings with him re the "Alien Autopsy". But he was not
involved.
Stan Friedman
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