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to: Mike Tripp
from: Michael Grant
date: 2003-06-09 22:07:24
subject: Squish progress

Hello Mike.

09 Jun 03 07:00, you wrote to me:

 MT> You could run SEAL with Squish if you're looking for a "everything but
 MT> the kitchen sink" util.  It adds Areafix, Tick, RAID, and file
 MT> announcing.  It sorts and pretty-formats the Tick and Squish CFG files.
 MT> It can output the latest areas to MSGAREA.CTL from SQUISH.CFG and
 MT> FILEAREA.CTL from TICK.CFG so that they can just be INCLUDEd into
 MT> MAX.CTL (2.x or 3.x).  It has a few nice extras like PAUSE/RELINK that
 MT> can stop/start all of the areas that a given node is linked to, and
 MT> NEWFEED which will generate an unlink message to your old feed's
 MT> address, a link message to your new uplink's address and then redo the
 MT> addresses on the existing lines for all of the affected areas with
 MT> one command line.

I ran Seal for a little while, but it's not too intuitive, and IMO SAQFIX
is a lot better areafix utility.

 MT> No GUI, but an (optional) nested menu text UI...which updates a standard
 MT> ASCII keyword-style CFG, which you can also edit by hand/batch-logic if
 MT> desired. The CFG compiles to a binary file that is actually referenced
 MT> by the EXE at runtime.

Actually, that's what I mean, a ascii graphical color nested menu system,
not a windows style GUI. This is the sort of thing that Fastecho and Gecho
uises. 
 MT> Biggest drawbacks are that the author is gone from Fido, lost his source
 MT> in a drive crash and couldn't leave it with us, and it is a DOS EXE
 MT> only...though it has been working fine under OS/2 here for years and
 MT> years.

 MG>> I still feel that Squish is the most flexible and dependible
 MG>> tosser out there. If updated to todays standards, it'd be hard to
 MG>> beat.

 MT> Fortunately, "today's standards" for mail-tossing are
about 10 years
 MT> old. ;)

Indeed. Because some people are so resistant to trying new ideas to
actually make Squish easier to use and more attractive for new users to
try, many sysops are still using programs like Fastecho and Gecho, which
haven't seen any development in many, many years.

Squish is a good thing. It can be a great thing, that most Fidonet users
would like to use, if only those who choose to work on it will think for a
while about what the average sysop would like to see Squish do for them.

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